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    05-14-2008, 03:13 PM
I agree that it is healthier for a horse not to be stalled, but not everyone can do that for their horses, especially if the land around restricts it.

Some horses have brittle hooves that would require them to have shoes, and also for some competitions, its better for the horses to have shoes for better traction.

But every owner strives to do the best for their horses, and I think as long as they are loved, that's all what matters. :)
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    05-14-2008, 03:17 PM
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Every single horse is different and you cannot apply an all or nothing to all horses. Some horses need shoes and some do not. Some need only front shoes.

The decision to shoe or not shoe should NEVER be based on the owner's opinion, but on what the horse needs.

Shoeing the hoof does not restrict anything. Having a horse in a stall does not take away years from their life. We have horses in their late 20s where I board that have lived in a stall. These horses get daily turnout but they are not on pasture 24/7.

I have my draft barefoot because he doesn't need shoes. If he needed shoes though, he'd have them. It's not worth it to me to risk his hoof health. It's important to base it on the individual horse.
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    05-14-2008, 03:28 PM
I understand that some people can't allow their horses to be outside.
But I still do agree with him that horses shouldn't have shoes. He said that a lot of Vets wont admit it because it will get them in "hot water" with farriers and farriers wont admit it because that's a majority of their business. But horses do better without them. It takes a few months to a year sometimes for them to get fully adjusted after shoes are taken off but he has never seen a horse unable to adapt to being shoe-less. In Europe there are stables that don't allow shoes and such and those horses do just fine. There are a lot of jumpers and whatever else there too.
I'm not trying to attack anyone I'm just trying to explain myself!
He said that in the beginning when he first got horses he thought that shoes and stalls were the best. He was just misinformed until he did a lot of research and learned what he learned.
To each their own beliefs though.
    05-14-2008, 03:37 PM
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A good farrier will tell you that some horses need shoes and that some don't.

I personally know of people that tried to go the barefoot route and no matter how long they tried, the horse's feet could not do it.

The problem I have with a blanket statement of horses should not wear shoes is that someone new might read that without doing their own research and do the wrong thing for their horse. No hoof, no horse, isn't just a saying, it's the truth.

Everyone should research barefoot vs. shoes. And then, take a look at their specific horse and determine what is best for the horse. If you have a good vet, he's not going to care about making your farrier mad, he's going to care about telling you what is best for your horse.

I've read the stuff that you've mentioned and the information is not correct. There are tons of research out there that shows shoeing the hoof doesn't not affect it in the way he mentions. It's barefoot propaganda.

My personal opinion is no shoes, but that doesn't make it right for every horse. I am lucky to have one that doesn't need it. Draft horses are notorious for having bad feet - a lot of weight on four hooves. It took me a long time and a lot of research to find what would work best and found that MSM keeps his hooves very healthy. Without that, he would need shoes.

Too many people keep their horses barefoot because they read things like that book and some of the horses end up lame and not usable. I've seen this happen twice where I board. It's sad because it was an avoidable situation.
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    05-14-2008, 08:32 PM
Guys keep it cool.

I do think no shoes are healthier, but some horses perform better with shoes. It's a personal preference- no right or wrong. :)
    05-14-2008, 09:21 PM
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And that's what I'm trying to say, that it's not good to say it should be one thing or the other. One of the ladies at our barn was convinced by a barefoot trimmer that her horse should go barefoot even though her previous farrier warned her against it. The horse's feet literally fell apart from all the harsh terrain she rode that horse on barefoot.

The horse was so lame by the end, she sold it - not sure if it went to someone else or to auction - never saw her again. It was really sad simply because it was avoidable.

While I realize everyone has their own opinions, when it's something this important that is going to affect your horse, I think it's just unwise to say a complete across the board no to shoes.

ETA: Didn't mean for my reply to come across as bad - just wanted to express my concerns for not thinking of the horse first!
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    05-14-2008, 10:00 PM
I understand, I just meant in general we should keep it cool. LOL wasn't pointing @ anyone in particular. ;)
    05-14-2008, 10:18 PM
I totally agree, that people should really strive to do what is best for their individual horse. Tb's aren't known for having the best feet and I have two. My gelding feet are brittle and crack when he doesn't have shoes or losses them, plus we jump him enough that the shoes are beneficial. He needs to wear four. My mare has very nice feet and doesn't need shoes at all. She'll jumps, hacks, and trail rides without a problem.

Definitely want to be careful about blanket statements.

I actually to say that draft breeds are my absolute favorite. If I was bigger (I'm 5'1") I would definitely have one; I learned to ride on ancient, grey percheron cross. I've actually been trying to get my dad into horses so we can buy one.

By the way Solon, your horse is gorgeous.
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    05-14-2008, 10:21 PM
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I'm 5'3", so you'd be fine!!!!

Yes, I have to use a three step mounting block pushed up against a 55 gallon drum and then jump up on his back from that, but hey what is life without a little adventure!!
    05-14-2008, 11:09 PM
Aw haha that's so cool. :P I don't have to use a mounting block getting on Lexi since she's only about 15-16hh. But sometimes I do anyway on my lazy days!
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