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  • What are grade registered pintos eligable for

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    01-15-2008, 08:25 PM
  #31
Weanling
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Originally Posted by AKPaintLover
Okay, I never even bothered to look into registering my apha stallion as a pinto because I thought that pinto was just a color - not breed registry.

1) is is possible to register him as a pinto?
2) What are the advantages and disadvantages (if any) in doing so?

Can any horse with color at all (regardless of breed, breed mixture, or grade status) be registered pinto?

Those of you how show Pinto congress, world, etc., do you show with and against otherwise grade horses and horses of all breeds?

I posted a thread about Pintabians before under Breeds - they are 99% Arabian, the rest paint - do they qualify as Pintos in addition to their Pintabian registry?

I have a palomino gelding who is qh/morgan - he is registered with a palomino registry, which is strictly a color registry - is Pinto the same kind of thing?
lets see how we go here....

1) YES your boy would be eligible for pinto as he has a lot of white and he is reg registry paint.

2) you would be able to stand him at stud for a whole nother breed - more money in your pocket. You would have a wider range of shows to take him to and this would mean more recognition for him.

Any coloured horse can be registered as a Pinto as long as they meet the colour requirments

No you do not show against different TYPE but yes they may be grade - they have different catagories, your horse would show in the STOCK horse type classes.

The Pintabians are eligible for Pinto again if they meet colour requirements

YES Pinto and Palomino are the same type of registry.


Someone also asked about Paints and Pinto shows - they BOTH have a world, congress and normal circuit.

Hope this helps.
     
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    01-15-2008, 08:31 PM
  #32
Weanling
Oh I forgot - PaintsandPintos70 and Tessa Bear.... I think that it is a load of BS that horse with more white are disadvantaged at paint shows. Most of the accredited judges in the paints also hold a pinto ticket so are you trying to tell me that when they go to a pinto show they suddenly learn how to see through the colour :roll: .

I have won world titles with Toby's, frame overos, toveros and one with a horse that was almost totally white..........
     
    01-16-2008, 03:53 PM
  #33
Foal
I agree with "I Love Lane" on the white issue. I've seen many mostly white paints winning classes, and championships. Its true that the more flashy horses tend to get looked at more, but there are many mostly white paints that really are eye catching.



This stallion has 10 champion titles, and 11 reserves on the APHA circuit and he is mostly white....



This stallion won 5 major APHA futurities in one year.

It seems to me like most minimum color paints have that "speckled" look and tend to be frame overos.
     
    01-16-2008, 07:05 PM
  #34
Weanling
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tessa Bear
actually J.R that mule would be considerd a pinto not a paint as you stated in your above post.


And yes there are solid paint classes, you cannot show in reg paint classes however with a breeding stock paint, but they do have special classes for them. I do not know for sure if they have a congress, that would be something you would have to check into.
uh no she is a paint how would she be a pinto?
     
    01-16-2008, 08:08 PM
  #35
Foal
Colourwise, they're the same right? Paints include quarter horses, T.breds and Paint horses, and Pintos include everything else if what I heard is right. Physicaly I don't know how to tell them apart, except by looking closely at their conformation.

I like any horse who can go trail riding for long hours and do a bit of endurance. (never mind my picture, I just like this one)
     
    01-16-2008, 08:35 PM
  #36
Weanling
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jr_lover
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tessa Bear
actually J.R that mule would be considerd a pinto not a paint as you stated in your above post.


And yes there are solid paint classes, you cannot show in reg paint classes however with a breeding stock paint, but they do have special classes for them. I do not know for sure if they have a congress, that would be something you would have to check into.
uh no she is a paint how would she be a pinto?
a MULE is NOT nor ever would be eligible for registration in the apha!
     
    01-16-2008, 08:56 PM
  #37
Foal
Quote:
Originally Posted by I Love Lane
oh I forgot - PaintsandPintos70 and Tessa Bear.... I think that it is a load of BS that horse with more white are disadvantaged at paint shows. Most of the accredited judges in the paints also hold a pinto ticket so are you trying to tell me that when they go to a pinto show they suddenly learn how to see through the colour :roll: .

I have won world titles with Toby's, frame overos, toveros and one with a horse that was almost totally white..........
No its not!! I have shown paints my WHOLE life and my parents are would champion trainers!! There are certain judges that will not look at a loud colored piant as much as they will a minimum white paint! Its a fact in the horse world! Not all judges do but also some do!! Pinto judge are sometimes more willing to except a loud colored horse because that is the breed!! It is NOT BS and I know pretty darm much wbout it since I have lost many a point to a minimum white horse that I should have had!! I am sorry that our views contridict! But I will stand by what I said!
     
    01-16-2008, 08:58 PM
  #38
Foal
Quote:
Originally Posted by firelight27
I agree with "I Love Lane" on the white issue. I've seen many mostly white paints winning classes, and championships. Its true that the more flashy horses tend to get looked at more, but there are many mostly white paints that really are eye catching.



This stallion has 10 champion titles, and 11 reserves on the apha circuit and he is mostly white....







This stallion won 5 major apha futurities in one year.

It seems to me like most minimum color paints have that "speckled" look and tend to be frame overos.

Ok and that was how long ago? 5, 10 years? Its more known know than a while ago!!
     
    01-16-2008, 09:26 PM
  #39
Foal
Ok I for one, have yet to ever show in a full season, I have only owned Darby for a minimal amount of time, and have been working with western pleasure horses for again a minimal amount of time.

I have only heard of such rumors about the "white". I am assuming it is right, for I have heard it from many others, however, it was wrong of me to assume this from lack of expirience, and I appologize.

I for one do hope that that this rumor is wrong becuase I have a framed overo.


And oh my goodness!! Those paints are beautiful Lane!!
     
    01-16-2008, 11:53 PM
  #40
Weanling
Quote:
Originally Posted by PaintsandPintos70
Quote:
Originally Posted by I Love Lane
oh I forgot - PaintsandPintos70 and Tessa Bear.... I think that it is a load of BS that horse with more white are disadvantaged at paint shows. Most of the accredited judges in the paints also hold a pinto ticket so are you trying to tell me that when they go to a pinto show they suddenly learn how to see through the colour :roll: .

I have won world titles with Toby's, frame overos, toveros and one with a horse that was almost totally white..........
No its not!! I have shown paints my WHOLE life and my parents are would champion trainers!! There are certain judges that will not look at a loud colored piant as much as they will a minimum white paint! Its a fact in the horse world! Not all judges do but also some do!! Pinto judge are sometimes more willing to except a loud colored horse because that is the breed!! It is NOT BS and I know pretty darm much wbout it since I have lost many a point to a minimum white horse that I should have had!! I am sorry that our views contridict! But I will stand by what I said!
I too have been showing paints my whole life and that is 2 times longer then you have been alive. Just for arguements sake I had a look at this years world champions and thought that I would share a couple of them with you so that you can see that your comment is a bit ludicrious-









And one of my own that won the world as a yearling:
     

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