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    View Poll Results: Which you like Better?
    Paint 21 70.00%
    Pinto 9 30.00%
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        01-17-2008, 02:33 PM
      #41
    Foal
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Jr_lover
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Tessa Bear
    actually J.R that mule would be considerd a pinto not a paint as you stated in your above post.


    And yes there are solid paint classes, you cannot show in reg paint classes however with a breeding stock paint, but they do have special classes for them. I do not know for sure if they have a congress, that would be something you would have to check into.
    uh no she is a paint how would she be a pinto?
    She is a pinto because she is a mule. The only way a horse can be a paint, is if it has quarter horse or thoroughbred bloodlines. Paint is a breed, and pinto is a color. Technically, Paints are also pintos. But pintos who aren't registered as paints (meaning they meet the bloodline/type requirements ), can't be paints.
         
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        01-17-2008, 05:50 PM
      #42
    Weanling
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by I Love Lane
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Jr_lover
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Tessa Bear
    actually J.R that mule would be considerd a pinto not a paint as you stated in your above post.


    And yes there are solid paint classes, you cannot show in reg paint classes however with a breeding stock paint, but they do have special classes for them. I do not know for sure if they have a congress, that would be something you would have to check into.
    uh no she is a paint how would she be a pinto?
    a MULE is NOT nor ever would be eligible for registration in the apha!

    I never said she was a paint so don't go jumping to conclusions and snapping at me....thats quite rude actually. And yes I do take that offensively that's just me I take things offensively especially torwards people that go jumping to conclusions what I said was that she was a paint mule and then I said why isn't she paint never did I state she was a full paint.

    And fieflight thanks for the kind statement but I have to dissagree if you don't know her lineage then how can you tell me she isn't a paint? So maybe you guys should think before saying that. (oops sry Firflight that sounded mean it really wasn't meant to be mean i'm kinda fired up from the other post :roll: so please excuse it. I'm sry)
    But uh yea that's what the owner told me and so i'm asumming she has some quarter horse or thoroughbred lines not sure so please don't jump on me.

    Oh and from what I was told from someone that used to work at a big breeding barn pinto was considered wild and paint was tame... I was kinda confused because I never heard of this so maybe it has changed since then for him lol. Also I looked in up on the internet and it said any horse that has a build that looks quarter horse like can be considered a paint.... not so sure about that one either. Really all I know is I have only called spotted horses paints and nothing more because I never knew the difference. I even looked to my books to find out can you believe its outdated it doesn't even list paint as a breed and I had that book since middle school....wowzers I really need to get a new one lol.
         
        01-17-2008, 07:07 PM
      #43
    Yearling
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by I Love Lane
    a MULE is NOT nor ever would be eligible for registration in the apha!
    This is correct, I don't know if this is what you took offense to Jr., but it is the truth.

    That mule might have had a Paint as one of the parents, but the mule itself is not a paint. The Mule is a pinto because it is paint by color, not by breed. EVEN if it had a registered APHA, AQHA, or JC parent. It still has bloodlines other than those three (hence the fact that she is a mule)...so she is not a paint.

    Being wild or time has nothing to do with it.

    Additionally, I did not notice anyone saying anything rude toward you ?? Maybe the apparent tone of what I quoted above?

    That mule is a cutie - I don't have much experience with them, but I really like that she has some color - it really jazzes her up :)
         
        01-17-2008, 07:26 PM
      #44
    Weanling
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Jr_lover
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by I Love Lane
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Jr_lover
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Tessa Bear
    actually J.R that mule would be considerd a pinto not a paint as you stated in your above post.


    And yes there are solid paint classes, you cannot show in reg paint classes however with a breeding stock paint, but they do have special classes for them. I do not know for sure if they have a congress, that would be something you would have to check into.
    uh no she is a paint how would she be a pinto?
    a MULE is NOT nor ever would be eligible for registration in the apha!

    I never said she was a paint so don't go jumping to conclusions and snapping at me....thats quite rude actually. And yes I do take that offensively that's just me I take things offensively especially torwards people that go jumping to conclusions what I said was that she was a paint mule and then I said why isn't she paint never did I state she was a full paint.
    and yes you did say she was a paint... please see the high lighted section of yor comment. I was not trying to offend you just wanted to get across clearly what had been said on multiple occassions that you seemed to have missed.
         
        01-17-2008, 10:08 PM
      #45
    tim
    Weanling
    Paint's a breed. Pinto's a color. Any horse can be a pinto provided it has the markings. Not all horses with pinto coloring are paints.
         
        01-19-2008, 12:53 AM
      #46
    Weanling
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by I Love Lane
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Jr_lover
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by I Love Lane
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Jr_lover
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Tessa Bear
    actually J.R that mule would be considerd a pinto not a paint as you stated in your above post.


    And yes there are solid paint classes, you cannot show in reg paint classes however with a breeding stock paint, but they do have special classes for them. I do not know for sure if they have a congress, that would be something you would have to check into.
    uh no she is a paint how would she be a pinto?
    a MULE is NOT nor ever would be eligible for registration in the apha!

    I never said she was a paint so don't go jumping to conclusions and snapping at me....thats quite rude actually. And yes I do take that offensively that's just me I take things offensively especially torwards people that go jumping to conclusions what I said was that she was a paint mule and then I said why isn't she paint never did I state she was a full paint.
    and yes you did say she was a paint... please see the high lighted section of yor comment. I was not trying to offend you just wanted to get across clearly what had been said on multiple occassions that you seemed to have missed.

    Ok but if you read below that I said paint MULE so i'm not technically calling her a paint. Although I am going to admit I was wrong. I'm sry I do not know as many terms as I sometimes think lol. This is just what I was told that she was a paint mule but infact she is not. I have just learned that she would be called a spotted or pinto mule by reading off of a very nice website that explains alot about the spots and stuff I also learned from you guys of course. Thanxies and sry for the misunderstanding I was just defending what I thought :roll: was right..

    Here's the site if anyone wants to check it out it has alot about horse coloring too and explains alot of it. Its pretty cool actually.
    http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/Studio.../seespots.html
         
        01-19-2008, 11:00 AM
      #47
    Foal
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by I Love Lane
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by PaintsandPintos70
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by I Love Lane
    oh I forgot - PaintsandPintos70 and Tessa Bear.... I think that it is a load of BS that horse with more white are disadvantaged at paint shows. Most of the accredited judges in the paints also hold a pinto ticket so are you trying to tell me that when they go to a pinto show they suddenly learn how to see through the colour :roll: .

    I have won world titles with Toby's, frame overos, toveros and one with a horse that was almost totally white..........
    No its not!! I have shown paints my WHOLE life and my parents are would champion trainers!! There are certain judges that will not look at a loud colored piant as much as they will a minimum white paint! Its a fact in the horse world! Not all judges do but also some do!! Pinto judge are sometimes more willing to except a loud colored horse because that is the breed!! It is NOT BS and I know pretty darm much wbout it since I have lost many a point to a minimum white horse that I should have had!! I am sorry that our views contridict! But I will stand by what I said!
    I too have been showing paints my whole life and that is 2 times longer then you have been alive. Just for arguements sake I had a look at this years world champions and thought that I would share a couple of them with you so that you can see that your comment is a bit ludicrious-









    And one of my own that won the world as a yearling:

    Ok yea those horse did well! Who cares!! I don't care how long youve shown paints and maybe you havn't seen it but I HAVE!!! I own a gorgeous tovero and there are times when judges won't look at her at PAINT AND PINTO shows!!! Its just some judges!! I just have found that more judges are like that on the paint circuit than on the pinto since the pinto breed is based on color!! I don't want to get in a fight with you on this!!me and tessa bear have our opinions and you have yours! But that dosn't mean you have to go around sying its BS!! Thank you very much that's my INTITALS!!!
         
        01-19-2008, 02:00 PM
      #48
    Weanling
    Actually I agree with PaintsandPintos70 because when I was reading through some things I was looking at some registration things about registering paints and it said if a paint has a certain amount of white on it then it wont be registered as a paint because they will only allow so much white. Not sure what registering that was but uh I find that to be judgemental about the horses coloring. (how much white it has...)

    Although not everyone is judgemental about this but it definitely shows that some people are....
         
        01-19-2008, 02:31 PM
      #49
    tim
    Weanling
    This is why I own a quarter horse.
         
        01-20-2008, 03:17 PM
      #50
    Foal
    Good point Tim haha.

    I do own a paint however, but have let them argue about it, I have heard both stories about the white and hope its not true, but if it is: Darby and I will just have to wow them what she can do!
         

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