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post #51 of 67 Old 01-20-2008, 08:01 PM
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Can somebody put a link up for me to check out the pinto horse website. I have found more than one...I don't know which association is most legit. :)
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post #52 of 67 Old 01-20-2008, 08:39 PM
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Also,

My neighbor, who has a Pintabian, and myself were talking about how annoying it was that there are only open or AQHA shows up here, and I was telling her that it would be great if APHA got started up here...when we realized that the Pinto horse association would appeal to a wider crowd here (in our smaller horse community)...seeing how both of us could show at a pinto show.

SO.... we were thinking we could look into starting a chapter of the pinto horse association up here and starting shows for horses of color.

Do you guys know if that can be done? what would be involved in doing something like that?
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post #53 of 67 Old 01-20-2008, 08:46 PM
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Actually i agree with PaintsandPintos70 because when i was reading through some things i was looking at some registration things about registering paints and it said if a paint has a certain amount of white on it then it wont be registered as a paint because they will only allow so much white. Not sure what registering that was but uh i find that to be judgemental about the horses coloring. (how much white it has...)

Although not everyone is judgemental about this but it definitely shows that some people are....
The only restriction on the amount of white a horse has in the apha is that they must have CONTRASTING colour - ie. you can not register a horse regular registry that does not have any brown/black skin. They would be considered a breeding stock even though they are totally white. No other restrictions are made on the 'maximun' amount of white allowed. :P

Paintsandpintos - i can see what the point you are trying to make is but i think that you are very wrong. Maybe this happens a lot at open shows but not at top level Paint or Pinto shows (as you have clearly proven youself by wining at the congress....). Also if you don't care how long i have been showing - why do you find it nessessicery to point out how long you have been, did you not know that you can learn a lot from people that have more experience then you do???

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Actually i agree with PaintsandPintos70 because when i was reading through some things i was looking at some registration things about registering paints and it said if a paint has a certain amount of white on it then it wont be registered as a paint because they will only allow so much white. Not sure what registering that was but uh i find that to be judgemental about the horses coloring. (how much white it has...)

Although not everyone is judgemental about this but it definitely shows that some people are....
The only restriction on the amount of white a horse has in the apha is that they must have CONTRASTING colour - ie. you can not register a horse regular registry that does not have any brown/black skin. They would be considered a breeding stock even though they are totally white. No other restrictions are made on the 'maximun' amount of white allowed. :P

Paintsandpintos - i can see what the point you are trying to make is but i think that you are very wrong. Maybe this happens a lot at open shows but not at top level Paint or Pinto shows (as you have clearly proven youself by wining at the congress....). Also if you don't care how long i have been showing - why do you find it nessessicery to point out how long you have been, did you not know that you can learn a lot from people that have more experience then you do???
Yea i have shown at top level paint and pinto shows and if anything at happens MORE there!!! and i bet i know about as much as you do!!! so i don't want to fight with you as i have ALREADY said!!! we have conflicting points so just drop it! you think one thing i think another!! Maybe since i can actually DROP it you should act as the mature person and do the same!! I am not trying to be mean but i have tried to be nice and it didnt work!!

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post #55 of 67 Old 01-20-2008, 10:18 PM
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Has it ever occured to you that maybe the horses with the less white are actually higher-quality horses, and maybe that's why they are placing better, meaning color has nothing to do with it?
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post #56 of 67 Old 01-20-2008, 11:22 PM
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Has it ever occured to you that maybe the horses with the less white are actually higher-quality horses, and maybe that's why they are placing better, meaning color has nothing to do with it?
I was not going to say that because i was sure that someone would think i was trying to say that they don't have a good horse, but yes that is what i was thinking too

Paintsandpintos - i havent said anything nasty to you so i am not really sure why you are getting so worked up.................. Just because i think your comment is silly DOES NOT mean that i am having a go at you.

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Has it ever occured to you that maybe the horses with the less white are actually higher-quality horses, and maybe that's why they are placing better, meaning color has nothing to do with it?
I was not going to say that because i was sure that someone would think i was trying to say that they don't have a good horse, but yes that is what i was thinking too

Paintsandpintos - i havent said anything nasty to you so i am not really sure why you are getting so worked up.................. Just because i think your comment is silly DOES NOT mean that i am having a go at you.
ok i am asking that we please drop this and just have our own opinions! hows that sound? and Bubba13- I am an 8 time congress champion and hi oint 13 and under with a TOBIANO PAINT/PINTO!!! Thats a pretty high quaility horse considering we had an offer of 55,000 for her during the congress!!!

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Did I say your horse was "crappy?" No, I did not. I don't even know your horse, so how can I possibly know if it is high or low quality, or if it deserves to win or not? But I am saying that, when others place higher on a consistent basis (which is what you are implying), then that is almost certainly do to them being better horses rather than the individual judge's "preference." Look at the horses posted above who have won--does it look to you like judges are bashing them because of their coloration?

I read in Paint Horse Journal a few years ago that in halter, and halter alone, there were a few ex-AQHA judges that were knocking high-white horses because the white spots were obscuring their conformation. There was a mild controversy, the problem was settled, and there was no more talk of biased judges after that time.

I own two Paint horses. One of them is extremely flashy and beautifully marked. The other is a minimal white overo who's only Paint characteristic comes from a broad apron face. The former is the prettier horse, but the latter is a much higher quality animal. Color has nothing to do with it.
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post #59 of 67 Old 01-21-2008, 02:48 PM
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but uh yea thats what the owner told me and so i'm asumming she has some quarter horse or thoroughbred lines not sure so plz don't jump on me.
I understand what you are saying. So her horse parent was a paint? Right? So she has a registered paint in her bloodlines, but she is not a registered paint herself (nor can she be). I get exactly what you are saying. I think things are hard to interpret sometimes through typing.

Anywho, in response to someone or anothers comment... those pictures I posted were NOT 5-10 years ago. Those are current stallions who are being shown now. So yes, mostly white horses do win. I don't think there is discrimination in that arena. I think judges do tend to favor horses they think are prettier though... and thats not right. They should just on ability and performance. But its that same way no matter what show you are at.

And enough with the arguing people. If a jerk puts down on your horse, ignore them. It makes you the better person to walk away from a fight. And if you are the jerk putting down on other people's horses, knock it off.
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post #60 of 67 Old 01-21-2008, 04:00 PM
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Can somebody put a link up for me to check out the pinto horse website. I have found more than one...I don't know which association is most legit. :)
If the Arguing is over....can anyone help me out with the above?? Also, as I asked earlier, does anyone know what would be involved in starting a section of the Pinto horse association or refer me to where I can get some info about it??
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