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    06-11-2012, 03:51 PM
  #121
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Watched that video of the Dutch harness horses. Wow! They are something to behold. I like how their tails are not broken to make them stand upright (that IS a cruel practice).

The guys that show those horses must be in good shape!


Here is the link to the new thread about the American Saddlebred horse. Really a neat thread:

The Amazing American Saddlebred
     
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    06-11-2012, 05:05 PM
  #122
Yearling
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Originally Posted by Laures    
I know nothing of saddlebreds,but it looks like fun!
They remind me a bit of Tuigpaarden (Dutch Harness Horses,you guys say),I like them. Tuigpaarden aren't shown under saddle (most of the time) but most of the horses also ride under saddle :)

Tuigpaard Hengstenkeuring 2010 Zwolle DHH stallionshow 2010 - YouTube
Wow, thank you for posting that video! Such awesome moving horses
     
    06-11-2012, 07:18 PM
  #123
Foal
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Originally Posted by tinyliny    
watched that video of the Dutch harness horses. Wow! They are something to behold. I like how their tails are not broken to make them stand upright (that IS a cruel practice).

The guys that show those horses must be in good shape!


Here is the link to the new thread about the American Saddlebred horse. Really a neat thread:

The Amazing American Saddlebred
Ive never heard of someone breaking a horses tail to make it stand up o.o on walking horses they use a harness that attaches to the saddle.
     
    06-12-2012, 02:51 PM
  #124
Foal
Saddleseat riding is different I will agree with that and yes some people are cruel. But most (atleast saddlebred people) don't "force" the horse to step and hold their head that way. Yes they put the weighted shoes and chains on, but if a horse is not cutout to be a saddleseat horse they get rid of them. That's how I got my saddlebred. He wasnt comfortable holding his head that high and even with the weighted shoes he didnt like picking his feet up like that. His owner didnt want to give him to the amish she wanted him to go to a hunte/jumper rider. Now the breeding of saddlebreds has gotten to the point were their not cut out for "Traditional Showing" so they become sporthorses. In fact ASHA has recently opened its circuit up to Hunter riders too. Another myth is that they "break" their tailbones. I promise you they do not I have seen what they do done. The vet clips a tendon in the tail that keeps it from stretching back too far. Then the set it in a tail set. Saddlebred show horses are constantly in a tail set because if you take it off and leae it off it will go to its natural possition. And yes they can still swish their tails. I have learned that with gaited horses their is more than meets the eye. Yes they can be cruel to thir horses but then again I know people who are just as cruel to their jumpers, hunter, barrel racers, reiners, eventers, dressage horses, and other disciplines. I understand were your comming from because until I started working for a saddlebred owner I too thought that saddleat was cruel and the horses were crazy.
     
    06-13-2012, 12:28 PM
  #125
Weanling
I remember riding a couple of saddlebreds over the years that didn't have anything special done to get them set their head, tail, or pick up their feet. They just did it like they were proud to be the breed they were and I think it's true of the breed the other things done to them, is to get them to do these things to the extreme
     
    04-05-2013, 01:22 PM
  #126
Weanling
I posted a similar thread a few weeks ago, with the zame opinion as you. The reins look too tight, their heads look too high, and the rider seems too far on the horses back. Though I never got an answer about the saddle placement, the other things were explained. The horse naturally carries it's head very high, Saddlebreds are bred for that conformation. As for the reins, they may look tight, but many people were trained with tissues as reins. It's comstant contact with the mouth, but not harsh contact.

Like any equine sport, there are people who aren't as humane about it, but that's the specific person, not the sport. Not my favorite style of riding, but everyone has different tastes.
     
    04-06-2013, 06:57 PM
  #127
Green Broke
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Originally Posted by Jalter    
I posted a similar thread a few weeks ago, with the zame opinion as you. The reins look too tight, their heads look too high, and the rider seems too far on the horses back. Though I never got an answer about the saddle placement, the other things were explained. The horse naturally carries it's head very high, Saddlebreds are bred for that conformation. As for the reins, they may look tight, but many people were trained with tissues as reins. It's comstant contact with the mouth, but not harsh contact.

Like any equine sport, there are people who aren't as humane about it, but that's the specific person, not the sport. Not my favorite style of riding, but everyone has different tastes.

I will explain about the saddle's placement.

These horses have immense shoulder movement, have sloping shoulders too, and if you ever sat one bareback when it was moving, where the rider is sitting in the saddle, that looks so odd? Is actually where you would be sitting bareback too.

Their backs are also quite long, compared to many other breeds, but if rider were too far back, as it does seem to those that don't ride them? Rider would be thrust forwards with each step.

But I can assure you, if you can ride bareback on one just once, and "feel" where you should be? You would naturally be riding right there.


And as an aside to something about broken tails in this world of ASB's. They are NOT broken, nor reset, and the tailset is not attached to the saddle in any of the breeds that wear one. The tailset has a surcingle, and breastcollar and various leather pieces as well as crupper too. No way to be using it, with its sheepskin or fleece pads, under a saddle, harness or under rider.

They call the tail a "breakover", as in it is raised with bustles and then put into set as horse learns to carry it. We referred to them as "broke" tails. But not broken bones in them, and in fact, if you took one out of tailset, tail would eventually look like any horse's.

Great care is taken with these horses, they are much loved by the people who care for them, and own them and train them. Very smart horses too and great personalities.

One on my string, barn name Bert, reg name Diamond Kite, liked to take 10am nap, and nap at 2 pm. So we worked around "his schedule". He was a hoot too. Loved Cola Chapstick, I would put some on his lips and he would be so impressed. Cool horse indeed. He also snored loud enough to wake barn.


Others preferred to work in morning, some in afternoon. Danny didn't want to work first, but wanted to be no later than 3rd to work. And had to have a snack with us at 10am too. Dill pickle potato chips, hot dog with bun and mustard and Coke. Shared mine every day with him.

And Old Money, at Louisville, where they place TV's in alleyway? Had to be able to see TV as he like watching the show, even moving around to see past people who stopped in his way. I even told people they had to move, so he could see.

Great horses.
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    04-06-2013, 07:40 PM
  #128
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I have heard a lot of people say that Saddlebreds are overloaded with personality. So, I guess it's true!
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    04-09-2013, 04:09 PM
  #129
Yearling
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Originally Posted by tinyliny    
I have heard a lot of people say that Saddlebreds are overloaded with personality. So, I guess it's true!

Absolutely true! Most of them have fantastic senses of humor. Yes, there are a few more serious individuals but even they will usually have little quirks that make them special to someone.

I also had one years ago that was a "napper" In the mid morning, Gypsy would lay down flat out and snore like an old man. Usually a good hour of constant LOUD snoring. Then she was game for anything but don't mess up her sleep schedule. Ha ha One time I remember she was taken out during her normal naptime and she acted like she just didn't have the energy to move. She was such a slug. It is almost always easier to work around the quirks then try to ask them to change. Ha ha

Amazing horses and MOST of the owners are amazing too. So sad there are still those that want to make such harsh judgements on a breed of horse or a whole riding style.
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    04-09-2013, 04:11 PM
  #130
Yearling
I just realized that someone resurrected a very very old thread here. Not sure what the point of that was.
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