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        12-18-2007, 08:07 PM
      #41
    Weanling
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by drop_your_reins
    I actually know quite a bit about natural horsemanship. To some degree I practice it with my horse. But a couple of friends of mine do it and are much more dedicated to it than I am. I know I must be the antichrist.. a saddleseat rider who practices natural horsemanship? But really anyone successful in the horse business has to communicate with horses in a way that is productive, so it has to be in a way they understand.. But I'm going to drop this thread, since your arguments are not founded by fact and you have no experience riding saddleseat, only the biased opinions you formed when watching someone who was not a true representation of the sport. I'll keep my open and mind and leave you with yours.
    HERE HERE!

    I have not ridden any type of gaited horse and IMO if that is what you want to do..... GO FOR IT!

    I ride western like a lot of people in this tread and I can tell you one thousand mean things that get done to pleasure horses that I don't agree with but I still do the sport! There is cruel people in every discipline - it wouldnt have mattered what was chosen here, someone would have been nasty and unkind because they don't have the education to realise that all sports have there down sides.

    Please take note that this is not a personal attack on anyone just trying to point out that no matter what the discipline that was being put down, someone was going to fire up about that - as would I if my sport was being attacked

    Just for the record Horse_luver4e, there is not a single type of horse that I don't like and if you care to take a look on the thread about that you will see that I posted to that a week ago. Don't go putting words into other people mouths.
         
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        12-18-2007, 09:40 PM
      #42
    Yearling
    Horselover, I am coming from a neutral opinion here (not passionate about either side of this argument). Why would you post this thread if you were just going to ask the moderators to lock it up as soon as a few people disagreed with you?

    The nature of your post is conflictual...it entices people to disagree with you and to share their opposing views. That is the beauty of this forum...you get to share your opinions :) (I have said that so many times :) )

    I find it curious that people get so fired up about things like these. If everyone steps back and quits taking things personally, and refrains from personal attacks, there are opportunities to learn from one another all over this forum.

    Horselover, I think it was assumed that you did not ride saddle seat because your experience with it (that you shared on this thread) was what you had seen from a snobby girl.

    Personal example of how to take things lightly:
    I have seen several threads started about barrel racing this or that. Well from many years of experience with the sport, I have seen horses drugged and run lame, started way to young, permanently injured, people sent to hospitals, etc. I have learned through experience that barrel racing CAN be a cruel and dangerous sport,
    BUT I do not start a thread about it or bash on those posting questions about it. Rather, I try to post ways to do well and be a good horseman in the sport...to help people avoid falling into that world of cruelty that befalls any discipline. It is much more productive than just wishing everyone would agree with me.

    Cruelty that I know of in various disciplines off the top of my head:
    Western Pleasure - the spur stop
    Dressage - over-flexing into unnatural positions
    Racing - Running too hard, too young, and using hard contact so that the horse braces at the bit when running
    Pack horses - can be underfed/watered on a regular basis
    Any sorry excuse horses owners - not trimming, vaccinating, feeding, exercising, or caring for horses properly

    Oh there are so many that I have heard of and that everyone knows about...it is ridiculous to continue :)
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        12-18-2007, 09:41 PM
      #43
    Weanling
    Whoo. I was starting to feel alone out there! Thanks for the support. No one is fighting with you horselover they are just stating their opinions.

    Also horselover, I really find it doubtful that you have been around saddleseat or ridden it. For one you would be able to base your arguments with more fact. Secondly, I think you would have more respect for the animals and people involved in saddleseat if you have tried it at a legitimate farm. Also "Least Favorite" is a lot different than "Don't Like.." you can still like a horse who might normally be your "least favorite" breed of horse. I don't really have any least favorites, but I am indifferent to some breeds.

    As for me, I gave you my personal background in horses before.. I have ridden many different seats and breeds of horse, I've driven horses.. today, for example, I rode sidesaddle for the first time in a couple years. My goal is to learn as much as possible about every discipline.. and ride as many types of horses as I can.

    I can honestly say that I can appreciate a horse who does its job and does it well, no matter what breed or discipline it is. Yes, I Prefer to ride saddleseat.. but that doesn't mean I don't enjoy a thoroughbred who loves to jump.. or a lightmouthed stock horse who is great at his sliding stops (although I've only ridden one, I've seen quite a few!).. or insert breed and discipline here.

    I love lane.. I've actually never ridden a gaited horse either! (some saddleseat horses are gaited, but not all saddleseat horses are).. Gaited is having more than the three main gaits (walk trot canter).. I don't really know too much else about it, since gaited morgans exist but aren't too common. Saddleseat is just a horse whose gaits are generally fancier. Sorry If I'm not making too much sense, I'm in a rush and completely exhausted. Lol Maybe someone can enlighten us a little more on gaited horses? Lol
         
        12-18-2007, 09:51 PM
      #44
    Weanling
    My bad Drop_your_reins I must have misunderstood what you ment when you were discussing the "gait" of the horse. Well then I have never riden a Saddleseat trained horse
         
        12-18-2007, 10:08 PM
      #45
    Yearling
    Thanx guys.I know, I'm a terrible person and I don't need to be fighting with you guys becuase I'm allways wrong. K?

    All I did was post what I didn't like

    People posted what the liked or disliked about it. I took it in.

    So please don't make this a big deal. Who cares what everyone else thinks?

    Does my opinion about saddleseat change your fun in the sport? No. So please just Drop It.
         
        12-18-2007, 10:52 PM
      #46
    Weanling
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by horse_luver4e
    Thanx guys.I know, I'm a terrible person and I don't need to be fighting with you guys becuase I'm allways wrong. K?

    All I did was post what I didn't like

    People posted what the liked or disliked about it. I took it in.

    So please don't make this a big deal. Who cares what everyone else thinks?

    Does my opinion about saddleseat change your fun in the sport? No. So please just Drop It.
    Don't get too frazzled over it As I have mentioned to you before - just be careful what you say and how you say it because people will respond to your comments as they would respond to mine if I had said what you did. If you say things that annoy people, they are going to have a go at you but if you try more to hear people opinions on what you have said instead of getting so defensive all the time, you would get into a lot less situations where people are genuinly getting mad at your expense.

    And just so you know, IMO noone thinks you are a terrible person, just a little misguided at times
         
        12-18-2007, 11:32 PM
      #47
    Yearling
    I don't think you are terrible horseluver. You clearly share my passion for horses in general :)
         
        12-31-2007, 02:32 PM
      #48
    Foal
    I rode saddleseat as a kid on both Saddlebreds and Arabs. I had a blast. I now ride hunters on TBs. I'm having a blast and I'm 42. That's the whole point of loving and having horses. Not everyone is cut out to have horses. If this girl at your barn "hates" horses, why is she even attempting to ride? And from what I still understand about the saddleseat show circuit, if you want to compete with the big dogs, you probably will pay between $25-$50,000 for a horse. The same goes in the hunter world. Sad, but true.
         
        01-01-2008, 01:37 AM
      #49
    Foal
    Quote:
    Sorry. I wasn't trying to sound mean. I was just trying to get some facts out there. I always hear a load of crap about how Arabs are so wound up and nuts, and even MORE crap about how saddleseat riding is such a horrible thing to be into, blah blah blah.
    To each his own. Or whatever that saying is, lol.

    I love gaited horses. I'm sooo madly in love with Paso's. I'd kill to own one. And I think it'd be so awesome to take a Saddlebred for a spin... Haha, we used to board at a Fox Trotter stable, and my mother's in love with them now, after she got to trail ride a few.

    Yeah I don't get why some people hate on the arabs
    My cousin has one and he is amazing.
    He's never bucked or took off :roll:
         
        01-01-2008, 09:27 AM
      #50
    Foal
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Jennifermarie
    Quote:
    Sorry. I wasn't trying to sound mean. I was just trying to get some facts out there. I always hear a load of crap about how Arabs are so wound up and nuts, and even MORE crap about how saddleseat riding is such a horrible thing to be into, blah blah blah.
    To each his own. Or whatever that saying is, lol.

    I love gaited horses. I'm sooo madly in love with Paso's. I'd kill to own one. And I think it'd be so awesome to take a Saddlebred for a spin... Haha, we used to board at a Fox Trotter stable, and my mother's in love with them now, after she got to trail ride a few.

    Yeah I don't get why some people hate on the arabs
    My cousin has one and he is amazing.
    He's never bucked or took off :roll:
    I know. I learned to ride on an Arab.
    They're not all the psycho nut-jobs people make them out to be.

    Lol, but personally, the hot ones are my favorite. I think some Arabs just need someone to understand how they work.

    Most people think our Half Arab is a completely lunatic, and sometimes I have to agree, haha. But really, most of the time he's just a horse you really have to keep after, you know? He's a horse you actually have to ride. Which I love. Lol.
         

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