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    01-01-2008, 06:12 PM
  #51
Foal
I don't get the Arab hate either. I've been around them my whole life, and out of those I've owned two that I wouldn't trust with kids. Both of them were mistreated before I got them. The rest have all been extremely trustworthy, especially with kids. I think people just see Arabians in their "show off" mode and think that they're like that all the time.

On the other hand, every Quarter Horse I've ever ridden was a total nut-job. But I don't make generalizations and say that all Quarters are like that, I was just unlucky enough to find a bunch that were.
     
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    01-01-2008, 08:12 PM
  #52
Foal
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Originally Posted by tranquilo
I don't get the Arab hate either. I've been around them my whole life, and out of those I've owned two that I wouldn't trust with kids. Both of them were mistreated before I got them. The rest have all been extremely trustworthy, especially with kids. I think people just see Arabians in their "show off" mode and think that they're like that all the time.

On the other hand, every Quarter Horse I've ever ridden was a total nut-job. But I don't make generalizations and say that all Quarters are like that, I was just unlucky enough to find a bunch that were.
Same. Lol.

Although before we bought our Half Arab, we did look at a nice QH.

He was a big 16 hand bay. OMG, he was amazing to ride. Lol, the only reason mom said she didn't want him was because she wanted Rumor [our Half Arab]. She just couldn't help herself. Lol. :roll:
     
    01-01-2008, 09:13 PM
  #53
Foal
saddleseat

Hello again my 2 cents worth on the soreing of walking horses or saddlebreds, I own and show 2 horses one is Walking jordan aka the DUCHESS She is TWH, 6yr old mare yes at one time in her life before I purchased her she had been sored up but that was when she was 2yr old and she has not been abused in any way since then she is a naturally gaited horse, not scared or afraid in any way. And I also have ROYAL KING B. He is a saddlebred horse that was used by the amish in pa for several years to pull a buggy he was also ridden at times also, He was sold due to the fact he was not a happy horse and would not keep up the buggy gait they require of the amish horses. I purchased him to use as a saddle horse and also to use in my buggy well as for a trail horse I only have a mustang that can go all day with him he is great never spooks at anything and can be rode by a 5yrold but he also has all the go you want in a horse , I have ridden him with a saddleseat type saddle but only a few times he is ridden western or bare back which ever I happen to want to ride, and as of just a couple years ago the TWH ass. Has stopped the use of chains and any other means of soreing a horse, in fact I had to put duchess thru a group of vet , and ass, officials before I could show her as they had to be sure she wasnt being sored up and because she has scars from it being done to her years ago she has to go thru a vet check before every show, since I do not believe in soreing of any animal she will never suffe rit again , but it is costly for me to show her do to the vet checks at each show before I can even enter her as of today she has 13 first and second places with out the aid of any heavey shoes or chains or any kind of soreing, in effect not all owners or trainers today hurt there horse just to win a place in a show. And anyone caught doing it is heavrely fined and suspended from the show circuit Thanks for listening to me rant about it but not every one hurts them or is cruel to there horses, and I am around a lot of the bigger show barns here in tn and can really and truely say that most don't do it , yes some do it continuouskly but they are being weeded out of the show and breeding training barns these days thanks again Dave
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    04-16-2008, 12:01 AM
  #54
Foal
I as a Saddle Seat and Saddlebred lover it makes me sad that one breed and their practices ruin our reputation for the rest of us. I only know of soring in the walking horse industry but it could be in the other gaited breeds (non trotting) but I only know of the walking horse industry to want that big exagerated step. Since Saddlebreds, Morgans, Arabs and NSH are trotting breeds and we want square trotting horses we do not sore our horses. Our training practices are a little different and the way we ride and how we like our horses is different than other disiplines but our love of our horse's and us wanting to keep them healthy and happy is just the same. Our training practices enhance the horse and the horse's are bred to like a lot of excitement. Since many of you haven't personally been around Saddle Seat horses you may think its weird that we like a lot of hooten and hollerin but the horse's love it too and there is reason behind it. Please don't judge us because I certainly don't judge you. Remember for a horse to jump high and canter and trot sideways is not natural as well but they are still happy doing it and are bred to do it well. Please lets all just get along.
     
    04-23-2008, 05:35 PM
  #55
Foal
I own a saddlebred and think that the sport of saddleseat is overwhelmingly cruel and unfair to the horses IN A GREATER DEGREE than dressage, jumping, western, etc. the means are almost accepted by the riders. Chains on their feet? Locked in stalls for long periods of time? Six inch shoes? They're horses, not accessories.
     
    06-20-2008, 11:52 AM
  #56
Foal
I ride saddleseat on the arab circuit. I refuse to show the saddlebred circuit. Their is cruelity in all breeds, you have to find the right barn. My trainer was one of the best. She spent time with each of the horses not just ridding them. And its not just about fancy clothes or horses it's hard work. These horses don't stay in that frame and don't keep driving under themselves without a riders help. Show hack is very hard. Its only on the arab circuit for those of you who haven't heard of it. You have 10 gates 2 directions. It takes an athletic, smart horse and a strong, good rider to bring a horse from an extended to a collected trot in 5 to 7 strides.
     
    06-20-2008, 11:58 AM
  #57
Foal
Arabs also have much stricter shoe regulations then saddlebreds so although their animation is enhanced by their shoes its not like the other saddleseat breeds. Their are no devices used to change their movement like chains and ****. Now that's in the show ring, go to some barns and their not all like that. But the pads for the shoes can only be a couple inches, the shoe can only weigh so much, you can't add extra nails for weight, etc. Tail setting is not allowed and not neccesary cause arabs naturally carry their tales up.
     
    06-20-2008, 11:58 AM
  #58
Showing
I wouldn't say that's it's dumb, it's just different. Some people prefer certain disciplines over other. Nothing else to say.
     
    06-20-2008, 12:12 PM
  #59
Foal
How does everyone get their little pictures that appear on the left side to be the correct size, mine are too big?
     
    06-20-2008, 12:41 PM
  #60
Yearling
I think it can be cruel, although I do agree with you guys that not everyone in this riding disipline is cruel. You are going to find a cruel person that rides in every disipline. I think that saddleseat is somewhat stupid looking and it is (in my opinion) more unatural than almost any other riding disipline. I just think it is point less. But that is my opinion and I respect all of your opinions.
     

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