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#1 ·
Hey guys,
So I've one maybe someone can help with. I have a QH that was pulled from a kill pen at an auction in Dallas,TX in 2010. She was 3, and the people that pulled her, were told they could only do so if they signed a contract saying that they would never tell who was selling them to the kill pen. By doing this, they were allowed to save horses from each group before they were sent to the kill pen. That being said, I have NO information on where she came from. I'm assuming she's 100% QH. Not sure though, she might even be registered, but I might never know if I can't figure out these brands! I'll post pictures below, but essentially, here is what she has:
A 7 on her left butt cheek
A 16 on her near shoulder
And what is either waves, or two half/quarter circles on her near hip.

That being said, if anyone looks at her and sees something other than QH...that helps a little too. Because then I know what else I might be looking for. My theory is that whoever branded her, clearly valued her as something, and they're likely not the people that wanted to unload her to the kill pen. So if I can find the people that first bred her, maybe I can find out if she's registered, where she came from, and possibly let them know that her life was spared.
There's a theory that the 16 on her near shoulder identifies which mare she was born to/what number foal she was. And also that the 7 designates the year she was born (2007), which would be accurate. But I also read somewhere that they put the mare/offspring number on the off shoulder. The near shoulder is usually a ranch brand when it comes to Quarter Horses.
She was born in 2007, according to the dentist, she'll be 6 this year. So that lines up. But if anyone can offer any guidance to the rest of it (or if the 16 is indeed a ranch brand)..or if even these brands aren't exactly what I thought and they're not a 7, but an upside down L...etc.. Or even a confirmation about what to call the waves lol
I need some fresh outlooks. So here we go. Pictures.

(The first picture is the from the day I bought her. She'd never been touched except to get a rope halter on her, and to be branded 3 times. So grooming was out of the question at that point.)

 
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#88 ·
I don't know how often the site is/was updated, but another ranch that bought most of his horses a few years back told me he filed bankruptcy...so it's likely it hasn't been updated since he did so. He's also not computer savvy, so I'm assuming someone else updated the website before that (Probably CNR Quarter Horses).. but she could've been sold as a weanling, or sold right when he filed bankruptcy and never made it to the site, because I got her in 2010... She wasn't halter broke when I got her. So my theory is that she was either A. sold in a hurry, sooner than her could get to training her, B. supposed to be a broodmare, but it didn't pan out or C. anything other number of other circumstances lol.
 
#91 ·
Looked at his website and I like that buckskin stallion.
Bancruptcy would explain why that mare was sold near Dallas
I hope this gets you the results you want . Thankfully he is a nice guy. Some of the older ranchers and farmers really like their privacy and can be short with strangers.
I was going to go out and look at his place but its almost to Amarillio. Nearly 400 miles from here.
I knew I had been there but with this state being so big I sometimes get those West Texas towns mixed up with the ones in the East. LOL Shalom
 
#94 ·
He said he thinks she's out of Roy Boy Holder.. But that's all he knows. Any idea if I get ahold of someone friendly enough at AQHA they could tell me the names of the 2007 sorrel fillies he had registered in 2007? I think if I could give him the name, he could figure out who she is...but otherwise, I think I'm gonna have to search long and hard for all his fillies until I find one that might be here/has a picture.
 
#96 ·
cnr quarter horses shows Roy Boy Holder as a dun. that 7 could be an upside down L . on all breed pedigree, under progeny there are some 2006 mares
Trixie O Leo roy boy holder x trixie holder / Coburn Creek ms b rbh x roan ann holder . coburn creek gig rbh x april roan holder . some 2005 and 2004 mares also listed there. He should have filed a breeder report . ask him if he has a copy of the breeders report, and see which mares bred to which stallion.
the only thing i would suggest is to have her dna'd and go from there .
 
#97 ·
Well I think that is my plan..it's only like fifty. .. I think. I just have to call them to find out. I also plan on double checking first to see if everything that comes from his ranch is papered... that's gonna be my biggest point to make first because as I recall. ..its not cheap to get a horse registered otherwise
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#99 ·
Her name would be Roo Milk Holder...she's actually a bay : /.
If I could just have a list of every "holder" horse, I could search their offspring, etc. and find one that might be her. But it's near impossible because CNR also has some of their's, and they breed together quite often, so holder horses aren't just at the Holder ranch.. It's hard finding Holder horses though because holder is a common word with horses...like "record holder" "point holder" etc. So it's a mess.
 
#103 · (Edited)
AQHA changes their data base on Feb 15, I have a voucher for pedigree records left over, so here it goes:

2007 REGISTERED offspring of ROY BOY HOLDER:
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BOY SHES CLASSIE 4974948 Chestnut Mare 04/06/2007
Dam- SKIPS CLASSIC ANGEL 4482286 Damsire- SKIP AND SLIDE 3289017

CUTTER BARS BELLE 4964896 Dun Mare 05/11/2007
Dam- CUTTER BARS MAGIC 4345948 Damsire- TARIS JUDGE 3202501

EASY ROCKET FROST 5118890 Dun Mare 02/27/2007
Dam- WINNA PEE WEE 3900195 Damsire- FISHERS SMOKEY JOE 3146725

FRIAS BUTTERFLY 4966477 Dun Mare 03/09/2007
Dam- ANNA DRIFT HOLDER 4356245 Damsire- TRIPLE DRIFTER KN 3763571

IMA FRECKLED DOLL 4957041 Bay Mare 05/12/2007
Dam- FRECKLE FACED BENITO 3948110 Damsire- TRIPLE COLONEL 2246310

RICOCHET ROY 5036675 Bay Roan Stallion 05/15/2007
Dam- WING RICOCHET TWO 3976139 Damsire- RICOCHET TUCKER 3230189

ROYS BADGER BUDHA 5027959 Dun Stallion 02/19/2007
Dam- ANGEL BADGER BUDHA 2871594 Damsire- BUDHAS DOC BADGER 2051496

ROYS FANCY CHICK 5036676 Gray Mare 04/15/2007
Dam- YB CHICK FLICK 4337012 Damsire- ZANS LAST REQUEST 3820275

ROYS IMAGE HOLDER 5029543 Dun Stallion 03/03/2007
Dam- TOS MISS IMAGE 4150836 Damsire- TEN O SEA 2964636

WC SKY BOY 5036246 Bay Stallion 04/28/2007
Dam- JC BLUE CLEAR SKY 3558875 Damsire- ROYAL BLUEBERRY 2002587
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My first guess was, because of the number brand, the mare Boneie Blue Holder, but she never had a sorrel foal:

TOO BLUE HOLDER 4757997 Blue Roan Stallion 05/04/2005
Sire- TRIPLE DRIFTER KN 3763571

MISS BAY GIRL HOLDER 4948282 Bay Mare 04/24/2006 Parent Verified; Genetic Typed
Sire- KIOWA DUN HOLDER 4470609

BONNY HOLDER 5186445 Black Mare 04/04/2007
Sire- COWBOYS BUTTERMILK 4494617

RED BONE HOLDER 5199855 Red Roan Gelding 04/28/2008
Sire- COWBOYS BUTTERMILK 4494617

CLABBER HOLDER 5256043 Palomino Mare 05/02/2009 Parent Verified; Genetic Typed
Sire- COWBOYS BUTTERMILK 4494617

BAY BONEIE HOLDER 5424808 Bay Roan Mare 05/20/2011
Sire- COWBOYS BUTTERMILK 4494617

Unfortunately we can barely go after colors anyway. This mare, Boneie Blue Holder, is registered Blue Roan, obviously a bay roan on the picture at the breeder's website, where he calls her a red roan - go figure.

I have about two vouchers left - if you want to look into another pedigree/offspring record, let me know!
 
#106 ·
If a horse ends up in auction or otherwise rescue worth situations chances are very high that she never got transferred. Making it impossible to track down former owners through AQHA.

This is interesting - the mare Skips Classic Angel sure looks a lot like Silberxx' mare:
Skips Classy Angel
2000 Sorrel mare
16 hands
she has just weaned a baby in these pictures 9/7/08

SOMETHING CLASSIC
CLASSICAL SKIPPERSKIP N TEEKASKIP AND SLIDEJOE SKIPIM DAISY MAE
MY SPANISH AFFAIR
QUINCY FEATUREQUINCY SHOW BOYOTOES SHOWGIRLDOLL FACE QUINCYRED BEE MOORECUTTER BEE 67EDDIE 21




... keep on researching :)
 
#108 ·
Yesssssssssssss .. but even if the current LISTED owner doesn't CURRENTLY own her ... they could IDENTIFY her .. or not.
The current listed owner would be the breeder - who said hat he can not identify her ... maybe he remembers if Silberxx can throw some names on him. It is a bit though to understand, but these breeders are sometimes weird. I work with one together who number brands his mares. He never talks names but he calls them like "the old number nine mare". I don't think any of his breeding stock has a name. Of course, they are registered, but they are all refered to by number, color or something else that sticks visibly out.
 
#109 ·
caljane you are correct.
In the pedigrees of some of the older QHs you see mares named brown mare, johnson mare, etc.
they do not name all their horses or call them by anything.
if we are going to sell a horse here I may not name it unless I register it. The colt born in 2011 is called the 'Colt" the filly born last year is the filly, her mother was 86 because of the brand or the sorrel mare.
I do not waste a lot of emotion on a horse that isnt going to stay here, I am not going to get attached to it and then sell it.
These horses are livestock not pets. None of mine know their name. they come running if you honk a horn, whislte or yell yo. Shalom
 
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