Their are plenty of HORSES that are 14.2 and under. That does not make them ponies. My 14 hand arabians are not ponies they are horses. A welsh cobb or connemara pony that is over 14.2 do not become a horse. Using height to designate a pony is archaic and false.
I have seen a couple of 13.2 or 13.3 hand QHs that are registered with the AQHA. Shalom
Yes you are right in a way - haflingers, Arabians, icelandics, etc are supposed to be considered horses no matter what size they are. In fact had a 13.3 hand filly that was a registered quarter horse.
However - in relation to this specific discussion - for a non-registered horse of stock-horse type look - anything 14.2 hands and under is most likely going to be considered a quarter pony rather than a quarter horse.
Even those breeds that are almost always considered horses no matter what the height will still typically be shown as ponies due to height requirements in the shows.
Determining what is a pony by height is far from archaic and is an active working and quite modern definition of what a pony is. The physical characteristics of a horse vs. pony (chest depth to height ratio, back length, neck length ratios, etc), metabolism, temperment, etc are not modern concepts by any means and have been around for many years. However, classification by height makes distinction for shows, etc simple and easy and a modern convenience.
The while "14.2 and under is a pony" is for jumping. Any horse, pony, draft, whatever that is 14.2 or smaller can obtain a Pony Card which puts them in that division. It is a HUGE advantage to have the largest "pony" possible rather than the smallest "horse". A 14.3 horse or pony who is competing in the horse division has a distinct disadvantage over a gigundo, long-legged horse.
Having a pony card doesn't mean the animal is an actual PONY. It just means that it measured 14.2hh or smaller. By this same token an actual PONY can be force to compete as a "horse" because it's 14.3 or larger.
My 14.2 Morgan qualifies for a pony card.... he's definitely a horse, not a pony. The Welsh pony at the barn is 13.2, he also qualifies for a pony card but he IS a pony!!
I don't even know what a pony card is and have no use for one. Outside of a show ring a pony no matter what height is still a pony, Same goes for a horse.
Using a blank statement that everything under 14.2 is a pony is false and outdated. That goes back to Henry VIII.
I see your point CAT and am not disputing it. Shalom
I went to the PONY OF AMERICAS WEB page. They don't state any pony can be POA and they have dna testing..., but. The AQP american quarter pony states Any stock type pny can be registered with unkown parentage. Also there are the National Quarter pony and International quarter pony registration! Never knew this. Lol..
POAs aren't just stubby Appaloosas, they ARE their very own breed. I live a few miles down the road from POA breeders, and I've picked up a few things from that experience. They try to breed them as close to the 'pony' mark as possible, and the most desirable are the tallest of the ponies. I've heard stories of people making 14.3 hand ponies CROUCH to meet the mark. My POA gelding is 15 hands, and most of the males out of his sire went over. I know you can breed POAs with QHs and still get a POA, and I think same goes with crossing to Appaloosas. But if I'm not mistaken, most of the stock horse registries are like that.
With my gelding, he is very much horse-sized, but I consider him a pony because that is what he is. Since he was gelded, I could register him as an Appaloosa, but since I do not plan to show much, so I never went through the trouble. I also have a Morgan mare who is unregistered, and has to be 14.1-2 hands, but I'd call her a horse. Morgans aren't ponies, so she isn't either.