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post #1 of 22 Old 01-14-2012, 10:42 AM Thread Starter
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Rare Breeds

What are some rare breeds that are found here in the United States? I'm bored and would like a new research project!
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post #2 of 22 Old 01-14-2012, 12:33 PM
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I know the American 'Bashkir' Curly Horse, which their are only about 4,000 in the world. Their are many theories to where they originated, but they did show up in herds of wild Mustangs. And many stories of people getting Curlies started out in a way such as this: they would have many horses, a few of them Curlies, and come some of the harshest winters would cause the death of many of the horses, and their Curlies would survive. (The Damele line of Curlies started this way. With the relization of this hardy breed they would catch more of them. But they crossbred a lot of them with more common breeds. But they did create some really good cow-horses.) Their are really interesting horses! I have one and I now know more about Curlies than any of the other breeds of horses I own.

It is interesting to find the stories of different lines of Curlies; Damele and Mead are some off the top of my head.

But the main thing that you will see that is clearly different with them is their hair. It is curly, thus their name. Most people who are allergic to regular horses find relief with the hair of the curly horse.

They are also said to have great personalities. While I might vouch for that, they are still individuals and they all are different. And the fact that their isn't as many of them gives that appeal. I have never met a mean curly, but I have only met 5 of them. They are gorgeous horses, and can be virtually any color. Seeing as they were crossbred with other breeds years ago sometimes you will find ones that look exactally like that breed just with curly hair. Then you will find some that are bred to more of the curly standard.
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Most people who are allergic to regular horses find relief with the hair of the curly horse.

Not really true. If you are speaking of supposed 'hypoallergenic' animals, it has been proven, there is no such thing. Some people are allergic to some dogs/cats/horses, and not others, regardless of breed or coat type. Humans are usually allergic to dander and/or saliva of animals and not hair. It could be, that being curly, these horses and some curly type dogs, don't shed dander as easily, since it might be caught in the hair.

'Hypoallergenic', is something often touted as a sales gimmick, for those who breed mixed breed dogs. Same as 'non-shedding'. Just another gimmick to make sales.

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Some more Curlies because pictures are always fun. (Links are to their pedigree.)

Picture in my first post is Scarlet, my own Curly.

Second picture is Tenakee. She is one of the horses at the farm I went to when we picked Scarlet up.

Third Picture is April, again at the same farm.

Fourth Picture is Buddy, their stallion.

Then we have who I believe is Honey's Lil' Hornet.
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Love your Scarlet, but horrifying feet on that buckskin. Disgusting.

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Most people who are allergic to regular horses find relief with the hair of the curly horse.

Not really true. If you are speaking of supposed 'hypoallergenic' animals, it has been proven, there is no such thing. Some people are allergic to some dogs/cats/horses, and not others, regardless of breed or coat type. Humans are usually allergic to dander and/or saliva of animals and not hair. It could be, that being curly, these horses and some curly type dogs, don't shed dander as easily, since it might be caught in the hair.

'Hypoallergenic', is something often touted as a sales gimmick, for those who breed mixed breed dogs. Same as 'non-shedding'. Just another gimmick to make sales.

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I am aware their is no such hypoallergenic animal, I have just heard from other people's experience that some people who are allergic to regular horses are less reactive to Curlies. I am big into dogs so I do understand the whole poodle dilema. I never really said that nobody would have any reaction, just in some cases people don't. Like you said, it might just be caught up in the hair; but they still do shed the dander.

EDIT: I know, it is a shame. That mare was gored by a bull and has a hernia, as well as founder. When we got Scarlet her feet were in pretty rough shape, but we got them fixed. (And she is on a regularly scheduled hoof trimming plan.) It sort of perplexes me why people will think that founder is something you cannot prevent. He used to grain all of those horses untill they foundered then learned not to. But when I got there he gave me tons of treats to give to her. I gave her two and gave the rest to my dog. She has lost weight since we've gotten her, and we are keeping her a lot healthier and working with her. I am thankful she didn't get realy nosy with the ammount of treats they fed her. A lot of people mean well, but that doesn't always happen in the form of direct action.

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Not surprising that the owner seems not to understand basic horse care. Looking at all thos uncapped T posts, I can see an accident waiting to happen (again).

I'm glad you got your nice girl out of there.

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Ok, since other animals have been mentioned in this thread besides horses.....FWIW (and don't flame me please) most people who are allergic to sheep's wool are actually allergic to the lanolin that is present in sheep wool. Lanolin is the greasy natural skin oil that sheep produce and no matter how much you scour (wash) sheep wool it never comes 100% clean of it.
Dander has nothing to do with it.

On the other hand, 99.9% of people can wear alpaca, even those who are highly allergic to sheep wool. Alpacas do not produce lanolin at all, but like most animals they do produce mild dander. Alpacas are considered hypo-allergenic as a whole, not just by people who sell them/their wool.
People can be allergic to things/animals in different ways.

I'm a mom of a highly allergic child (to many, many different things, not just food) who must carry an epi-pen 24/7/365.
Yup.... he used to be allergic to horses too and I had previously checked into getting a curly.
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Awe poor Buddy looks like he was only used for stud service
He needs way better care and his hooves need a bad trim
Buddy looks so sad

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The curlies are cool! I'll have to go and read more about them. I know Gypsy Vanners used to be rarer in the states but it seems everywhere I look now I see them. Any other suggestions?

Oh, and Appy's are my favorite breed...I LOVE the buckskin curly Appy!!!
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