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    02-03-2014, 05:03 PM

Hello all! I got Tempo as a rescue and he was sold to me as a TWH. After putting some weight on him and spending some time in the saddle I discovered he is in fact 5-gaited and not like any TWH I've ever ridden. His tail is broken so it can go high up over his back and he also speed racks. My best bet is Saddlebred but I wanted other opinions. The story I got with him is that he is a previous show horse and the owner died so the horses got sent to auction. Poor guy was 300 lb underweight when I got him and he's so high energy its difficult to put or keep weight on him so I realize he is still bony in the pics but it's a work in progress. Thanks in advance!
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    02-03-2014, 05:07 PM
To me he definitely has the TWH look. I've ridden Walkers that indeed not only did the runningwalk, but would trot, pace, stepping pace, rack, speed rack, one even did a likeness to the foxtrot!

I've met many 5-gaited Walkers :) Even my guy can do a rack at low speeds, and trot too.

He looks lovely btw, I love his color. He actually looks quite a lot like my horse! ;D
    02-03-2014, 05:14 PM
He walks, trots, canters, does a slow gait and racks super fast. My paint can canter full speed next to his gait. It's the most amazing thing to sit! I'm still not convinced he's TWH though. He's just not built like one and holds his head like an ASB. Perfect neck arch and head tuck.
    02-03-2014, 05:25 PM
Honestly to me he looks like a TWH. He's very pretty!! My spotted saddle horse will speed rack, I love it. :)
    02-03-2014, 05:32 PM
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Maybe a Saddlebred/TWH cross, but I doubt pure Saddlebred. And Walking Horses also have a high headset, and nice clean throatlatch and head.

As for the "high tail" that you think was "broken"? Nope. What you are seeing is flagging more than likely, which every horse can do, if it suits them, from foals to aged. I've looked at the pictures of him you provided, and this horse has not been a tailset horse I would be willing to bet. And for that matter, tails aren't "broken" to get one to wear a tailset either.

TWH's and Saddlebreds share same older lines of horses. Gaines Denmark for example. And the Chief lines. Also same sires and horses figured in the Standardbreds.

Tennessee Walking horse - The American Saddlebred Blood

Just be glad you've got one this versatile.
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    02-03-2014, 05:42 PM
His tail is broken actually. You can bend it completely back and forth in the tailbone with your hand. I was told they cut the tendons when they're young for that. My vet agrees that it has been set previously.
    02-03-2014, 06:11 PM
Originally Posted by jen7724    
His tail is broken actually. You can bend it completely back and forth in the tailbone with your hand. I was told they cut the tendons when they're young for that. My vet agrees that it has been set previously.
It might be hard to tell but my hand is at the bottom of his tailbone and you can bend that thing sideways and up pretty far. My paints tailbone doesn't bend like that.
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    02-03-2014, 07:03 PM
He doesn't look like a purebred TWH or a ASB. Maybe he's a cross.
    02-03-2014, 07:15 PM
Green Broke
I can for sure see the TWH in him. Here is my friend's TWH/KMSH gelding that could just about be his twin...

    02-03-2014, 07:50 PM
The lady that sold him to me as a TWH called me a few weeks after I bought him and said she had called the people she got him from and found out that he was actually a National Show Horse but I don't see the Arab in him either. I really wish I knew what he was. I don't show him so it doesn't really matter but he's an awesome horse and I just want to know what he is. I ride w a TWH and comparing the 2 riding together, they are nothing alike. I need to get a good video of him. That would make it easier to attempt to figure out his breed I think.
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