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    02-12-2012, 11:24 PM
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Saddlebred info please?

Hello! I'm new to the forums. I needed horse advice and thought this would be a great place to get it.

I was doing a "lease to own" type of deal with one of my friends. I've been riding with her for quite some time, and practically live at both my apartment and her farm. I noticed she had a horse that no one was riding and asked about her. She was the "boss" mare, a 9 year old Tb/Arab cross. I rode her for almost a year now and have decided to call it quits. She just too much of a horse for me to handle, she bucks when she's mad and is real spooky and flighty on her "bad days". I just feel like we can't connect. She needs a confident, very dominate rider, and I'm still way too green for her at this point.

Needless to say I've been looking into getting a new horse, an older, well broke trail horse. I came across this ad and called about this horse: Nice trail horse

After talking to the owner I want to go look at him. This couple bought the horse for their adopted daughters, but the girls really arent into horses, so they have no use for him. The owners rode him all over on trail rides and he's dead broke, but they're into draft horses, not gaited horses.

Now I don't know much about Saddlebreds. I've always rode Paints, Arabs, and QHs. I've always heard that they're showy but not very smart. I didnt know they made good trail horses but the owners claim he is. He looks skinny and needs some tlc, but I need something mellow like him.

Can anyone give me advice and tell me more about the breed?
     
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    02-13-2012, 12:30 AM
  #2
Yearling
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Originally Posted by TrailxxRider    
Hello! I'm new to the forums. I needed horse advice and thought this would be a great place to get it.

I was doing a "lease to own" type of deal with one of my friends. I've been riding with her for quite some time, and practically live at both my apartment and her farm. I noticed she had a horse that no one was riding and asked about her. She was the "boss" mare, a 9 year old Tb/Arab cross. I rode her for almost a year now and have decided to call it quits. She just too much of a horse for me to handle, she bucks when she's mad and is real spooky and flighty on her "bad days". I just feel like we can't connect. She needs a confident, very dominate rider, and I'm still way too green for her at this point.

Needless to say I've been looking into getting a new horse, an older, well broke trail horse. I came across this ad and called about this horse: Nice trail horse

After talking to the owner I want to go look at him. This couple bought the horse for their adopted daughters, but the girls really arent into horses, so they have no use for him. The owners rode him all over on trail rides and he's dead broke, but they're into draft horses, not gaited horses.

Now I don't know much about Saddlebreds. I've always rode Paints, Arabs, and QHs. I've always heard that they're showy but not very smart. I didnt know they made good trail horses but the owners claim he is. He looks skinny and needs some tlc, but I need something mellow like him.

Can anyone give me advice and tell me more about the breed?

Well most of the time I've seen them do saddle seat riding, but I have a friend who owns a few and she uses them on the trails and the horses just love going out! They seem to be really calm and have really steady temperaments. One would walk himself all the way to the trails if he could! I'm close to Green Bay small world, lol. Anyways, lots of people I've delt with around here like to claim horses as "deadbroke and wellbroke" when that's not the case. I would go check him out though! He seems alright, give him a ride and see if you like him. Price isn't too bad either.
     
    02-13-2012, 12:37 AM
  #3
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    02-13-2012, 12:47 AM
  #4
Weanling
No No No No No

I love my HALF Saddlebred, but he is not for anyone who is not a very experienced rider -and he is trained to death.

Saddlebred's were once bred to be comfortable long distance riding horses - but nowadays they are bred almost exclusively for the show ring. All of the Saddlebreds that I have met, granted it is under 10, have been loving animals who live for attention - but have the heart of mouse and the brains of a fern.

This means that they are VERY sensitive to a rider's slightest mistake. Any harsh actions taken by a human can put them in a mental melt down that will last for DAYS. Just raising my voice to my gelding, who I have owned for 11 years since he was a baby, will send him reeling into a total freak out that can include rearing and bolting - from being yelled at! Imagine what could happen if struck by someone...

Though he would never conciousely do anything to cause harm to a human being, only today he took my 20 year old daughter for a canter at a rack (his gait) for over 200 yards before she gained control of him again - but the last 20 feet was inside the barn full of other horses.

Now this horse is what I would call kid safe... He will stand ground tied as small three year old children come runnign though the barn and hug his legs on the way by - which scared every adult in the place, but my horse only twitched one ear. He can also have small children put on his back in the arena - he won't go where they want, but he won't hurt them.

I have seen a young girl, 12, rescue a Saddlebred mare... there was nothing wrong with this horse other than she was too sensitive for most riders - it ended BADLY...

Please, consider a less explosive horse breed unless you have very calm hands and a calm seat - and are ready to work to keep your horse calm everyday for the rest of the time you own him.
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    02-13-2012, 12:51 AM
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Yearling
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Originally Posted by yadlim    
I love my HALF Saddlebred, but he is not for anyone who is not a very experienced rider -and he is trained to death.

Saddlebred's were once bred to be comfortable long distance riding horses - but nowadays they are bred almost exclusively for the show ring. All of the Saddlebreds that I have met, granted it is under 10, have been loving animals who live for attention - but have the heart of mouse and the brains of a fern.

This means that they are VERY sensitive to a rider's slightest mistake. Any harsh actions taken by a human can put them in a mental melt down that will last for DAYS. Just raising my voice to my gelding, who I have owned for 11 years since he was a baby, will send him reeling into a total freak out that can include rearing and bolting - from being yelled at! Imagine what could happen if struck by someone...

Though he would never conciousely do anything to cause harm to a human being, only today he took my 20 year old daughter for a canter at a rack (his gait) for over 200 yards before she gained control of him again - but the last 20 feet was inside the barn full of other horses.

Now this horse is what I would call kid safe... He will stand ground tied as small three year old children come runnign though the barn and hug his legs on the way by - which scared every adult in the place, but my horse only twitched one ear. He can also have small children put on his back in the arena - he won't go where they want, but he won't hurt them.

I have seen a young girl, 12, rescue a Saddlebred mare... there was nothing wrong with this horse other than she was too sensitive for most riders - it ended BADLY...

Please, consider a less explosive horse breed unless you have very calm hands and a calm seat - and are ready to work to keep your horse calm everyday for the rest of the time you own him.
I do have to agree with everything here. It depends on your experience too, Saddlebreds can be A LOT to handle if you don't know or aren't familiar with the breed. They can be some of the best horses, but that does require some knowledge and a knowledge of how to handle them. That's why if you really want him, I would go check him out and see how he is first hand.
     
    02-13-2012, 12:59 AM
  #6
Trained
Also the Saddlebred looks a little thin in the pictures

I would go and try her out
     
    02-13-2012, 02:02 AM
  #7
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The Saddlebred resource centre of the internet: Trot.org Forums - Powered by vBulletin

American Saddlebred Dressage - Harry Callahan
American-Saddlebred.Com
Saddlebred - Information, Art, Gifts, American Saddlebred Sculpture by Patricia Crane
Saddlebreds Unplugged - Home
Five-gaited Saddlebred horse
Just a good example of the breed: Saddlebreds really CAN do anything! - Trot.org Forums

This is a VERY informative page: History Of The American Saddlebred Horse

Same here, with pictures.
Far Field Farm - History of the American Saddlebred Horse
American Saddlebreds At Work and Play

American Saddlebred Horse Guide to Training Techniques, Care, and Conditi

Elmer Bandit, the late competitive trail mileage record holder had to beat, that's right, an American Saddlebred by the name of Wing Tempo.
The Horse | Whose Record is Elmer Bandit Trying to Break? More on Wing Tempo

Saddlebred Pictures from the ASHA - American Saddlebred Horse Association
Saddlebred Moments

Now that the links are out of the way.... American Saddlebreds are highly intelligent, very personable horses. They are expressive, athletic, and require a slightly different touch than say, a Quarter Horse. You really must take their personalities and abilities into consideration when deciding what they are suited for. Really, every horse is different, and it is hard to say what they will be like as a whole. Pleasure horses are MUCH different from Performance Horses for example. Attitudes, build, movement, etc. all determine what the horse is suited for.

They are very expressive horses that are easy to read, once you know them.

I have about 20 Saddlebreds right now. I must say, I have to wholeheartedly disagree with the "Heart of a mouse" sentiment. Having spent my entire life with them, I know them as brave and intelligent. I know them as alert and energetic, ready to go, ready to please, ready to do. I have never known one to freak out for no reason. I have known many who would carry a child safely through a fire on the fourth of July. I have met every "type" of Saddlebred you could find. Dumb ones, smart ones, mean ones, goofy ones, show horses, fun horses, hard-headed incredibly frustrating horses, alligators, and teddy bears, fighters and ones who would rather hang out... I know A LOT of Saddlebreds. LOL.

One of my favorites growing up, the mount I chose for all of my adventures in the woods, the horse I rode everywhere, through creeks, over logs, through anything, the horse fit for the Princess I was pretending to be, was a different horse when we would go to shows. This was a horse who would never let me fall. At home we'd race through the fields on adventures. At shows, every foot was placed precisely. He would have cantered in a tea cup. He was great. His sire was my royal mount as well. He was a gentle, but hard headed soul who taught me so much. He was brilliant.

My beloved, and most wonderful friend who died last year was the BEST horse anyone could have asked for. Made my childhood friends look wild. He loved to be a part of things. He loved to learn. He loved to do. Mellow. Laid back. That good friend who was always there to play a game with or go for a walk, or . . . Anything. God I miss him.

Right now in my barn, I have show horses, yearlings, stallions, retired horses, broodmares, kid's horses and trail horses(some cross over). I live for the breed. They are strong, brave, intelligent, fun, loving, fun-loving horses, that come in all types.

I do not have a dumb one in the bunch(unless you count my bay three year old who has the attention span of a gnat). I don't have a horse that is unpredictable. I only have one that is so sensitive, you'd almost call him fearful. But he gets over it so long as I do not make a big deal about it. I have never had one fret for days over an incident. I have had to UNDO some things that *I* have caused, but that is all a part of learning.

As for your prospect being thin, this is a double edged sword. A thin horse can become a different horse entirely when he is in good health. Just ask the folks at Welcome to Saddlebred Rescue Inc. They are definitely people I would go talk to if you are looking into a Saddlebred. They are owners, trainers, exhibitors and angels who live for and love the breed as I do.

Good luck! I hope you find the right Saddlebred for you!
     
    02-13-2012, 02:20 AM
  #8
Green Broke
Wow, it sounds like I would like Saddlebreds. I haven't really been around them much, they aren't very common around here, but they sound a lot like Arabians and my Fox Trotter.

I've owned two Arabians and my Fox Trotter is what I call Arabian in temperment. Very sweet and loves people. But very sensitive and go-y and if someone got mad at her it would only make her more nervous. But I like that kind of horse. I am calm and I understand them. I would rather have a horse too sensitive than too dominant. I am better at calming them down then asserting myself as boss mare.

So I actually think I would enjoy Saddlebreds. But I know you can't sterotype breeds either. For instance my first horse was the most lazy Arabian you have ever met.
     
    02-13-2012, 03:18 AM
  #9
Started
Saddlebreds, are like any other breed. They will have different temperaments and attitudes. The way they have been trained, will also make a difference. Many go through the Rose Parade each year, and I've never yet seen one flip out.

I have been around a lot of Saddlebreds. I found them to be very people oriented and sane and sensible for the most part. Beautiful too - which never hurts.

Go and see this fellow. He looks very thin in the pic, so I'd definitely have a full vet check. Have the seller saddle, bridle and ride him for you. He might be just the mount for you. On the other hand, there are always many in rescue and for riders of varying abilities.

I shall miss my beautiful, five gaited, Denmark's Monarch, for ever.

Lizzie
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    02-13-2012, 04:00 AM
  #10
Trained
I LOVE my Saddlebreds and my pinto Saddlebred mare is my GO TO horse for anyone who needs calm, sensible and fun but not stupid. My others will eventually be as good as she is, but she has the most under saddle experience and was basically born saddle broke. Her son is JUST like her and I can't wait til he's old enough to start. I have a 1/2 Arab & 1/2 Saddlebred mare that I also adore, she's such an attention seeker! I haven't started her yet but personality wise, she is all about doing whatever gets her praise and attention. That seems to be consistent with all of the Saddlebreds that I have had or met. And going out on trail with them is a real treat. Very comfy to ride and not a spook in them, so I would believe the owners IF they would ride him and show me his moves. Yes, he's thin but most likely, once he gets consistent groceries and maybe his teeth done, he'll plump right up.
     

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