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    07-19-2013, 10:21 PM
  #11
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Oh BLECK! Look at this disgusting creature. Isn't he just hideous. That wild, inquisitive eye, long arched neck, near perfect blaze, good size, good bone and you know I never did care for black horses. And to think this colt trots level barefoot. Who would ever want a creature like this?


Oh god, here is another. What is that silver running though his coat? Grays are the worst. They show off all the wrong features. He holds himself far too proud.
https://fbcdn-sphotos-d-a.akamaihd.n...43301425_n.jpg

Ahh! Make it stop! My eyes!
https://fbcdn-sphotos-f-a.akamaihd.n...79719573_n.jpg

Ew! Gross! What is that girl doing? Wait... that is me from about 8 years ago... Holy cow, has it been that long?
https://fbcdn-sphotos-a-a.akamaihd.n...289_1204_n.jpg

Let us try to not be so blatantly hateful when it comes to things other people love. It is uncalled for and unnecessary. Hooray for you. You love something different. I would never call your horses "Gross".
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    07-19-2013, 10:22 PM
  #12
Foal
Isn't hunters an english saddle? I have no interest in doing that. I love western and will stick with it. Makes me feel like i'm in the old western movies lol. But I do not think saddlebreds are ugly. I appsolutely adore mine. I agree some breeds are not to my liking. But never look a gifted horse in the mouth. She was gaven to me. And I wouldn't change a thing even if she was ugly. Because she is my old lady:) and that is really pretty how that horse holds up it's tail! She holds hers up but not like that. And I suspect she had some training in the past because when I ride her she puts in her nose to her neck. And I think she may have been a barrel racer. Her last owners said the owners before believed she use to be a race horse!
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    07-19-2013, 10:23 PM
  #13
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Do you have any pictures of your girl? I would LOVE to see her!
     
    07-19-2013, 10:30 PM
  #14
Yearling
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Originally Posted by EqQueen97    
Gross... Saddlebreds never appealed to me. Hunters are the way to go. Select a nice Dutch WB, Hanovarian, Swedish WB, etc.
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That was ridiculously uncalled for. If you don't like Saddlebreds, that's you own issue. Nobody said you had to read this thread. How would you feel if I went around calling your horses gross, and about how mine is so much better? The thoughtlessness of some people. I don't like Arabs, but I don't find threads about them and go on about how awful they are.

On a side note... LadyDreamer your response post made me LOL.
     
    07-19-2013, 10:37 PM
  #15
Foal
I love your post LadyDreamer! And I do put I have no idea how to put them on from my phone. I do have another post asking her breed actually and there is a picture of her there! I will try and figure it out tho!
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    07-19-2013, 10:49 PM
  #16
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Oh, pretty girl! I found her.

I hope this isn't too terribly confusing. It probably depends on what type of phone you are using too. LOL!

What I do when I am on my phone, to attach photos you need to click FULL SITE when you are in the thread and ready to reply. Click POST REPLY(you may have to reclick full site). Then after you write your reply and all that good stuff, a section right below the main text box will say "Manage Attachments". Click that. It will open a new window, select your file. Wait for it to upload, and then go back to the reply window. You should see "1 attachment" where the "manage attachments" selection is. When you post, we should get it.

Or just make sure when you reply you have the [ img] url here [ /img] brackets around your url, minus the spaces.
     
    07-19-2013, 11:18 PM
  #17
Foal
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There is a few of her in this. This was after a few days when we got her. She is one of our rescues and we have now had her and her sister for 4 weeks. We didn't have time to get their feet done right away but a few days after these pictures they were. Just figured I would mention that before hateful comments about the feet being neglected. But trust me they are not:) I just have to share that even threw all the things she and her sister that I rescued with her have been through, they have the best personalities and you almost can't tell they were neglected! And I apsolutely adore your saddlebred!
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    07-20-2013, 04:41 PM
  #18
Yearling
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Originally Posted by LadyDreamer    
Oh BLECK! Look at this disgusting creature. Isn't he just hideous. That wild, inquisitive eye, long arched neck, near perfect blaze, good size, good bone and you know I never did care for black horses. And to think this colt trots level barefoot. Who would ever want a creature like this?


Oh god, here is another. What is that silver running though his coat? Grays are the worst. They show off all the wrong features. He holds himself far too proud.
https://fbcdn-sphotos-d-a.akamaihd.n...43301425_n.jpg

Ahh! Make it stop! My eyes!
https://fbcdn-sphotos-f-a.akamaihd.n...79719573_n.jpg

Ew! Gross! What is that girl doing? Wait... that is me from about 8 years ago... Holy cow, has it been that long?
https://fbcdn-sphotos-a-a.akamaihd.n...289_1204_n.jpg

Let us try to not be so blatantly hateful when it comes to things other people love. It is uncalled for and unnecessary. Hooray for you. You love something different. I would never call your horses "Gross".

You know... I have really learned to l like you because of your caring, sensitive posts. It is for that reason that I am willing to take that "gross" looking horse off of your hands. Please send that colt to me immediately as I wish you to not suffer another day of gazing upon him.

One word... Beautiful! Guess some folks just don't know what Beautiful really is.
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    07-20-2013, 04:46 PM
  #19
Green Broke
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Originally Posted by LadyDreamer    
Some saddlebreds can be taught to rack, and really, you need a LOT of training before you can teach one. You at least need to have ridden a few five gaited horses, and probably even a few five gaited horses with problems, just so that you can get the feel for what it is. You need a great deal of training yourself before you can successfully train one to rack. You need to ride gaited horses that will cheat you, ones that you have to work for, and you need to be coached by someone who knows how to do it. It is not something that can be accomplished in a couple weeks or a month of training. This takes a VERY long time of VERY short sessions.

My advice is to send your horse to a saddlebred trainer for evaluation and training for a few months.

Here are a couple things that might help you.
Getting the first steps. How a young Saddlebred is taught to rack.
Here is a good video from one of the best.
Trainer's Tip 12 - YouTube
This man is without a doubt someone you do NOT want to take any tips from. He is basically clueless and is a laughing stock to boot.

I saw all I needed to know about how much is doesn't know on his tailset video. No wonder his tail feathers look as crappy as they do, he is an idiot.
     
    07-20-2013, 04:53 PM
  #20
Green Broke
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Originally Posted by LadyDreamer    
It is just easier to copy/paste from past responses, so here we go.

Some are hand stretched, some are in "humane braces" where the high tail is just a piece of wire and a "cap" or wig, but most of them require a simple surgical procedure. They are put in a harness that is specifically fit to each horse. At first, several weeks before the surgery, they are put in a bustle which is a really thick crupper to help loosen the muscles and to ensure that the horse will even tolerate wearing the set(You don't want to find this out the day after surgery). After a few weeks of wearing the bustle and hand stretching, a vet comes out and does a simple procedure where the muscles that allow the horse to clamp their tail down with force are nicked. When they heal, the horse still has full use of his tail, they just cannot clamp down with force. It also makes the tail loose enough to be put in a brace for the show ring creating that aforementioned balanced look.

It is purely for fashion now. Not necessary, and they require an absurd amount of care during healing. Every effort is made before, during, and after the surgery to make sure the horse is comfortable and pain free in order to protect the tail. A horse in discomfort will rub his tail, pull his set off, of find some othe way to try to rid himself of the discomfort which will obliterate the tail and cause the horse greater pain. When this happens, often the damage is irreparable. They are pampered, and carefully tended every day until they are fully healed.

Once the procedure is complete, the horse does not need to wear his set 24/7. Show horses only wear their sets a week or two before a show. In the off season, the sets come off. So do the shoes.

It is legal in every division to show with a natural tail, and some horse shows, including the World Championships have added several natural tail classes.
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I don't know what barn you are at or where this garbage came from, but tailsets on a set horse are not pulled during 'off season', and darn sure don't just wear them week or two before show either. The only time they won't be wearing them if they are a set horse is when being worked.

And it is a tailset not a harness.

And most of them will do just fine being started with bustle and moved up into crupper, no need to cut one.

As for not being able to clamp down? I can assure you that the few horses that had had to have tail worked on could clamp them down just fine and dandy.
     

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