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    07-20-2013, 04:59 PM
  #21
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Well, now I'm bummed! Inga beat me to the offer of hiding all those sad looking creatures that LadyDreamer posted. Grab them and hide them from view, by all means.
I have a mare that got a fair amount of "pretty" from her Arab dam but the Saddlebred sire gave her stately. The Saddlebred is an impressive breed.
     
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    07-20-2013, 05:08 PM
  #22
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Originally Posted by jewelerin74    
Can Saddlebreds rack? I believe that's what its called. Where one leg goes up while the other three are on the ground. And if so how do I teach mine to?
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A rack is one leg down, others off ground. Running walk would be more what you are thinking of, or an amble?

Does your horse do it in the field or arena? Does it have a loose look when walking, sort of a swing to the movement?

Does it trot well?

If you have seen it hit a lick at liberty, then not rocket science to work on getting it out of horse.

Use snaffle, smooth one here at first.

First though, you need to have a cue for trot...bring legs onto horse, and bring hands up and narrow in front of you as you squeeze with calves. You can use verbal cue, but don't overdo it, and only use at beginning after you have given aids.

Once trot is solid? Then from a trot....teach these cues to let horse know what you are asking for.

To rack, keep hands low and spread wide...and take deeper seat and open legs off of horse. Keep horse moving forwards with clucks if needed, use legs on horse sparingly during this.

You might need, if you can feel horse is not settling into gait, to very very lightly "shake" head. You do this by alternating the use of your pinky finger to "pluck" first one rein, and then the other.

Notice I wrote ALTERNATE this...that means you pluck right rein, and then left rein. Not both at same time.

You want to get a little shake at mouth. Don't saw on reins either.

You want to get horse to shake head, which will be felt in shoulders, seat and shimmy in your body. And don't mean shake as in shaking flies off, this is very very subtle movement.

And the MINUTE you "feel it in your seat" quit any plucking of either rein. Let horse move forwards, don't pull back at all. Don't close hands or legs. Low and wide in hands, off in legs.

Again...the force of the plucking is very very light. Hold your hands above your keyboard, forefingers just above J and F key, and no other fingers touching either...then lightly reach out with pinkies and flick pinky at the enter and the caps lock.

The lighter you keep your cues, the lighter the horse will be.

If horse has been seen to settle into a gait at liberty...but seems resistant to it, you can use bracelet on diagonals, LF RH or RF LH to throw off the beat of the trot which will "shake" one.
     
    07-20-2013, 06:04 PM
  #23
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Originally Posted by Palomine    
This man is without a doubt someone you do NOT want to take any tips from. He is basically clueless and is a laughing stock to boot.

I saw all I needed to know about how much is doesn't know on his tailset video. No wonder his tail feathers look as crappy as they do, he is an idiot.
Clearly, you have never met this man or his family. That man is one of the best.

As for the tail set, to an outsider, comparing it to a harness is accurate. No, you are not going to hook one to the jog cart. It was for comparison purposes only. And really it kind of is a harness. You have a breast strap, a surcingle, a crupper. You have the main components of a harness, however the function is completely different.

Where I get my information is a lifetime of experience growing up in a competitive show barn, and by talking to and visiting and working in many different barns. I get my information from my personal experiences and from people who are more experienced than me. I do, in fact, know that with the sets come off with the show shoes in many many barns.
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    07-20-2013, 06:09 PM
  #24
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Originally Posted by Palomine    
A rack is one leg down, others off ground. Running walk would be more what you are thinking of, or an amble?

Does your horse do it in the field or arena? Does it have a loose look when walking, sort of a swing to the movement?

Does it trot well?

If you have seen it hit a lick at liberty, then not rocket science to work on getting it out of horse.

Use snaffle, smooth one here at first.

First though, you need to have a cue for trot...bring legs onto horse, and bring hands up and narrow in front of you as you squeeze with calves. You can use verbal cue, but don't overdo it, and only use at beginning after you have given aids.

Once trot is solid? Then from a trot....teach these cues to let horse know what you are asking for.

To rack, keep hands low and spread wide...and take deeper seat and open legs off of horse. Keep horse moving forwards with clucks if needed, use legs on horse sparingly during this.

You might need, if you can feel horse is not settling into gait, to very very lightly "shake" head. You do this by alternating the use of your pinky finger to "pluck" first one rein, and then the other.

Notice I wrote ALTERNATE this...that means you pluck right rein, and then left rein. Not both at same time.

You want to get a little shake at mouth. Don't saw on reins either.

You want to get horse to shake head, which will be felt in shoulders, seat and shimmy in your body. And don't mean shake as in shaking flies off, this is very very subtle movement.

And the MINUTE you "feel it in your seat" quit any plucking of either rein. Let horse move forwards, don't pull back at all. Don't close hands or legs. Low and wide in hands, off in legs.

Again...the force of the plucking is very very light. Hold your hands above your keyboard, forefingers just above J and F key, and no other fingers touching either...then lightly reach out with pinkies and flick pinky at the enter and the caps lock.

The lighter you keep your cues, the lighter the horse will be.

If horse has been seen to settle into a gait at liberty...but seems resistant to it, you can use bracelet on diagonals, LF RH or RF LH to throw off the beat of the trot which will "shake" one.
This will only work if this American Saddlebred has been previously trained to rack. This will not work for a person with no experience trying to teach the horse to rack.
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    07-21-2013, 12:37 AM
  #25
Foal
Lol I love how that person deleted the comment! Unless I just didnt look hard enough and skipped over it. And the horses she named off, i'm not a horse breed expert but they nearly looked the same as a saddlebred. But hey, if she is willing to buy me all the needed tack, and the horse, pay for the shipping, and farrier and vet expenses, and for more hay, (because there is no way I am getting rid of my lady!) Then I would be glad to have one!
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    07-22-2013, 01:36 PM
  #26
Foal
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Originally Posted by LadyDreamer    
Do you have any pictures of your girl? I would LOVE to see her!


This is my friend riding her at her old house but I love this one!




Me and Blue back at her old home
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    07-22-2013, 01:42 PM
  #27
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Oh she is cute as a button! Do you know an approximate age of her or her history? Where she might have been raised? Rumors of a registered name?
     
    07-22-2013, 06:31 PM
  #28
Yearling
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Originally Posted by LadyDreamer    
Oh BLECK! Look at this disgusting creature. Isn't he just hideous. That wild, inquisitive eye, long arched neck, near perfect blaze, good size, good bone and you know I never did care for black horses. And to think this colt trots level barefoot. Who would ever want a creature like this?


Oh god, here is another. What is that silver running though his coat? Grays are the worst. They show off all the wrong features. He holds himself far too proud.
https://fbcdn-sphotos-d-a.akamaihd.n...43301425_n.jpg

Ahh! Make it stop! My eyes!
https://fbcdn-sphotos-f-a.akamaihd.n...79719573_n.jpg

Ew! Gross! What is that girl doing? Wait... that is me from about 8 years ago... Holy cow, has it been that long?
https://fbcdn-sphotos-a-a.akamaihd.n...289_1204_n.jpg
LOL, you're really not helping your cause any.
     
    07-22-2013, 08:17 PM
  #29
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I don't know why you want to pick another fight. If you don't think they are attractive, don't comment. That response wa to the recently banned member saying they were gross. Clearly, I think those are beautiful horses.

I also think the OPs little mare is adorable.
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    07-22-2013, 09:53 PM
  #30
Foal
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Originally Posted by LadyDreamer    
Oh she is cute as a button! Do you know an approximate age of her or her history? Where she might have been raised? Rumors of a registered name?
I got her and her sister knowing nothing about them. The people I got her from was told she was in her 20's but they gave them 2 different numbers. I actually have a thread with pictures of her teeth asking how old. But working with her she seems like she had some show experience. Maybe some barrel racing too. Her breed was a guess between a saddlebred or an arabian mix. The people I got them from said they thought she might have been an old racehorse. I have no idea if she was ever registered either.
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