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    01-20-2012, 10:23 PM
  #121
Green Broke
I hear complaints about the built up shoes and laugh, thinking, "Do these people ever wear high heels?" High heeled foot wear just makes you walk a little "fancier."

My horse background is primarily ranching, racing, and polo, but I did get the opportunity of riding 3- and 5-gaited horses while working a contract in So. Carolina. What a treat!

The training encourages specific muscling that results in their desired gaits. The same as a TBs training (hopefully) results in speed, and a cutting horse's training results in their moves.

In addition to lessons (and my daughter showed) we got to take some of the horses at the barn in So. Carolina out on little trail rides just to give them a change of pace (although the horses got paddock time daily). Delightful horses. Great manners. Very easy to work with.

I'll admit, I used to think the smiles on the faces of show competitors had to be phoney. But, after riding Saddlebreds I found it was almost impossible NOT to smile. Very fun to ride.

As a therapist I can see that when I prescribe specific exercises, with weights and bands, I'm doing the same thing as horse trainers. Targeting specific muscles to get a desired movement.
     
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    01-20-2012, 11:12 PM
  #122
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Originally Posted by boots    
I hear complaints about the built up shoes and laugh, thinking, "Do these people ever wear high heels?" High heeled foot wear just makes you walk a little "fancier."
Really? Nothing could be further from the truth.

Killer Heels: The Dangers of High-Heel Shoes - Softpedia
High heel horrors! The hidden cost to your body of those crucial extra inches | Mail Online

This is a very real phenomenon, by the way. High heels wreak havoc on the bodies of women....and horses. Otherwise it wouldn't matter what kind of hack-job farrier you used, would it? Because the angle of a horse's feet doesn't matter, and certainly doesn't affect soundness. And there'd be no market for comfortable human shoes.
     
    01-20-2012, 11:26 PM
  #123
Green Broke
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Originally Posted by bubba13    
Really? Nothing could be further from the truth.

Killer Heels: The Dangers of High-Heel Shoes - Softpedia
High heel horrors! The hidden cost to your body of those crucial extra inches | Mail Online

This is a very real phenomenon, by the way. High heels wreak havoc on the bodies of women....and horses. Otherwise it wouldn't matter what kind of hack-job farrier you used, would it? Because the angle of a horse's feet doesn't matter, and certainly doesn't affect soundness. And there'd be no market for comfortable human shoes.
Methinks the sites you cite overstate things a bit.

Personally, I liked the Saddlebreds that were "natural-shod" (how's that for an oxymoron?) just as well as the built up. But, in choosing my battles for horse welfare, the shoeing and training of Saddlebreds doesn't make my list.
     
    01-20-2012, 11:42 PM
  #124
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Originally Posted by boots    
Methinks the sites you cite overstate things a bit.
And you have proven scientific evidence to the contrary? Please provide it. Mine were just the first two sites that popped up on Google, but you can find peer-reiviewed journal articles substantiating the claims, as well.

Knee osteoarthritis and high-heeled shoes : The Lancet
Biomechanical effects of wearing high-heeled shoes 10.1016/S0169-8141(01)00038-5 : International Journal of Industrial Ergonomics | ScienceDirect.com
Lower extremity mechanics and ener... [J Orthop Sports Phys Ther. 1994] - PubMed - NCBI
Postural Alignment in Barefoot and High-Heeled Stance : Spine
The effects of wearing high heeled shoes on pedal... [Foot Ankle. 1992] - PubMed - NCBI

The evidence of problems with incorrect shoeing in horses is even better understood. Ask any vet or farrier.



This is not healthy. You're just asking for navicular / caudal heel pain and hyperextension injuries in the soft tissue flexors. A weighted shoe causes problems with the joints, too, and greatly exaggerates any pre-existing problems with movement, such as paddling, further stressing the knee.

Now let's look at some TWH shoes.













Totally harmless....right?
     
    01-20-2012, 11:43 PM
  #125
Green Broke
My mon is 53 and has been wearing 6 inch heels since she was 18. She seems to walk just fine. In fact, her legs have stayed in great shape...
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    01-20-2012, 11:46 PM
  #126
Trained
Mango, your mom is the exception, not the rule. I occassionally will wear stilletos, which 6" heels are, if I were to make them my regular footwear I highly doubt I could kickbox and crack people's heads open.
     
    01-20-2012, 11:48 PM
  #127
Green Broke
But, then again. She doesn't have 5 gates. She walks, and she runs.
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    01-20-2012, 11:50 PM
  #128
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Your mom ever have migraines or back pain or shoulder pain, Mango? And does she wear the shoes daily, and do a lot of walking in them? Do you know why women's high heeled shoes are so prevalent (hint: it puts her in a vulnurable posture while exaggerating desirable/sexual curves, namely the buttocks and breasts)? Ever tried to run in heels?
     
    01-21-2012, 12:01 AM
  #129
Green Broke
She tore her shoulder joint thing once After crashing my dirt bike, so sometimes it hurts her. Her head hurts on occasion from her braces. Really her only health issue is an irregular heart beat. She used to at her last job, when she was a traveling rep for blackberry phones and went to different stores all day.
Heck...I think her shoes are pretty dang cute!
I have no problem running in them on a hard surface, I've broken a pair running in grass.
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    01-21-2012, 12:02 AM
  #130
Green Broke
I sure look like a dweeb though. Lol
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