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    02-13-2013, 08:37 PM
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Is she REALLY an appaloosa?

I'm a little perplexed by an 'appaloosa' mare I rode the other day. She's almost 16 hands tall, super stocky with a really chunky head, has a thick mane and tail, and is solid bay with no visible mottled skin or stripes on her hooves.

Is she really an appaloosa?

According to my trainer she is a registered appaloosa, and I trust her, but...
She's not the owner and I don't know the owner to ask her so I just thought I'd ask here if anyone knows of or owns a registered appaloosa of this description. She has none of the traits mentioned in the breed standards I read and she's so stocky and big, I always thought appaloosas were lighter and smaller.

Tell me what you think!
     
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    02-13-2013, 08:46 PM
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Green Broke
Not in my opinion, But that wouldnt be the only breed the registries have ruined. Basically turning appaloosas into a colored QH breed.
     
    02-13-2013, 08:55 PM
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Showing
Appaloosas now come in all shapes, sizes, and builds. My best friend had a registered appy gelding who you would have sworn was a tall QH or even a TB if you saw him out in the field. Only the more "foundation" type appys retain the characteristic smaller build and wispy mane and tail. And, just like paints, it's entirely possible to have a horse born with no pattern expression. Doesn't mean it isn't purebred, just means that the genetic switch that tells the color to express didn't get switched on during development.
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    02-13-2013, 08:56 PM
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Yes she CAN be a registered appaloosa with a thick tail and no molting or spots.
     
    02-13-2013, 08:59 PM
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Trained
How old is she? This is my daughter's 26 year old appaloosa. She totally looked bay when she was 3 years old.

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    02-13-2013, 09:05 PM
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Green Broke
If she is registered she is a solid. Many appys are not spotted.
     
    02-14-2013, 06:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Celeste    
How old is she? This is my daughter's 26 year old appaloosa. She totally looked bay when she was 3 years old.

She's 12 so I don't think that's it, but it looks like I got my answer anyway. Thanks everyone!
     
    02-16-2013, 10:53 AM
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Originally Posted by TruGing    
I'm a little perplexed by an 'appaloosa' mare I rode the other day. She's almost 16 hands tall, super stocky with a really chunky head, has a thick mane and tail, and is solid bay with no visible mottled skin or stripes on her hooves.

Is she really an appaloosa?

According to my trainer she is a registered appaloosa, and I trust her, but...
She's not the owner and I don't know the owner to ask her so I just thought I'd ask here if anyone knows of or owns a registered appaloosa of this description. She has none of the traits mentioned in the breed standards I read and she's so stocky and big, I always thought appaloosas were lighter and smaller.

Tell me what you think!
There is no reason from your description that would mean she is not an appy.

In the first place, there were two conformation types in the original Appys. One was the rangey light-horse type, and the other was developed later and included draft blood, which is why some Appys are heavier with thicker necks.

In the second place, ApHC, thre primary Appys registry, permits outcorssing to Arabs, Thoroughbreds, and Quarterhorses, so there are differing conformations in "Appys" as registered by ApHC - many Appys actually have little Appy blood in them. ApHC is NOT a breed registry - it is a registry that registers horses that are either all or part Appy.

Third, not all Appys carry the gene that gives them Appy characteristics. Even when 2 colored Appys are crossed, there is still a 25% chance the resulting offspring will be solid.

So, it is entirely possible that a 16 hand solid colored horse can be a registered Appy, and it is entirely possible the horse could be predominantly Appy as well as part Appy...
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    02-16-2013, 11:34 AM
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I have someone at our ranch that has two appaloosas....they are both geldings and at least 16hh and very big boys physically. I think the english girth they just bought is a 50". I thought they were smaller too and she told me there are two types.
     
    02-22-2013, 09:51 PM
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Foal
Not all appaloosas have spots.
     

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