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    11-08-2012, 09:03 PM
  #21
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Hmm, I guess it kind of depends on where you're from. Even down here in Texas, when I think "Shetland", I picture those little chunky, hairy, tough horses...draft horses in miniature. There is a family that I know that breeds and raises colored Shetlands and, since the entire family is pretty small-statured, they use those ponies for cattle work, even roping and dragging with them.
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    11-08-2012, 11:08 PM
  #22
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Originally Posted by smrobs    
There is a family that I know that breeds and raises colored Shetlands and, since the entire family is pretty small-statured, they use those ponies for cattle work, even roping and dragging with them.
That I would love to see, we used to use them for gathering the cows, so much fun
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    11-15-2012, 01:20 PM
  #23
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Originally Posted by nikelodeon79    
I understand and appreciate that you love your British Shetlands but there really its no need to put down American Shetlands. I don't think the breed is "ruined," just different. Just because some decided they wanted to create a more refined riding pony rather than a "work horse" type doesn't warrant slamming an entire breed. I personally consider them completely separate breeds, with different qualities in each to appreciate.

Before I got my Classic American Shetland, when I thought of Shetland Ponies, I thought of British Shetlands. For that reason, I never wanted one. Nothing against your ponies, but they are just not for me. I was thrilled to discover a lighter, more refined pony and now I own two.

Honestly I think if you own this breed you need a thicker skin and perhaps should concentrate on educating rather than ranting. British Shetlands were NOT bred for their beauty, and they DO look chunky (though I understand they are not overweight). They were and are bred for their working ability. So, you can have your strong, hardworking pony and I'll have my pretty pony and we'll both be happy.
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Isn't it typical of America that once they take on a certain breed - which has set breed standards, they decide to change it but stick to the original name?

Not just with Shetlands but with many breeds of dogs.

If an American Shetland was shown in the UK in a Native Pony class it would be thrown out the ring nothing abut it is true to type.

I am not a Shetland fan by any means. To me they look deformed, a form of dwarfism which could well be possible as they originated on islands.
I do not know if any genetic testing has ever been carried out with the Shetland or not as to whether there is a genetic fault.

Much in the UK has been carried on the Shetland ponies back, they are tough little devils and should remain true to the proper breed standard.
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    11-15-2012, 05:01 PM
  #24
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Shetland in gereral don't have dwarism just thousands of years or natural selection has made them shrink to shelter from the wind and so they don't need as much food. Though there is dwarfism in the breed, I doubt it is tested for as the only genetic testing which is widely done is perentage for stallion evaluation, Shetland pony folk in general don't really test for anything else. You would be lucky to find a breeder that know the genetics and proper terminolagy for the colours. But I agree they are as tough as nails, I can feed one of them very little food in winter, not hard food grain ect and very little hay and they still come out of winter fat.

I am sorry if I came across as breed basing I never meant to.
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    11-15-2012, 05:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Faceman    
You are absolutely correct. The European and American Shetlands are quite different in conformation. Those negative posts are either from those that don't notice where you are from or don't know the difference. Americans for some reason have a tendency to breed all breeds to the same standard instead of preserving their original conformation. It has gotten to the point that often it is hard to differentiate between the breeds. I think that is a shame, but it is the way it is nonetheless. If we continue the practice, there won't be much need for different breeds over here...that is a bit of an exaggeration, but not by much...

Oh my goodness that is so true. I have argued that with people on so many occasions. I think of the Saddlebred (because it is my breed of choice) and then the Arabian and Morgans that are becomming Saddlebreds. The Arabians and Morgans of old were nothing like the Saddlebreds. They didn't have the park action, they had amazing extended, floating trots but were not so upright like that of a Saddlebred. Why must everything look the same?


The Modern Shetland is like a Hackney pony. I will be the first to admit, I love an upright, elegant looking horse, which is why I love the Saddlebred and the Hackney pony. That said, If I were to get an Arabian, I would much prefer the Arabians of old. If I wanted a Shetland, I would want it to look like a Shetland, not a Hackney.
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    11-15-2012, 05:25 PM
  #26
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Inga American Shetlands look like hackneys because they were founded by crossing a Shetladn with a hackney, where as UK Shetlands are one of the oldest and purest breed in the world, there has been Shetland pony bones found in Shetland that have been carbon dated from the bronze age.

What is intersting and slightly random is the the University of Cambridge has found the the gene responsible for the spead of thoroughbreds has most likely come from the British Shetland as they have the highest number of that gene out of anybreed in the world. Speed and stamina: a tale of two genes - Research - University of Cambridge

Basically saying that most likely thoroughbreds originated from crossing Arabs with Shetlands.
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    11-25-2012, 12:07 PM
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Originally Posted by rbarlo32    
Shetland in gereral don't have dwarism just thousands of years or natural selection has made them shrink to shelter from the wind and so they don't need as much food. Though there is dwarfism in the breed, I doubt it is tested for as the only genetic testing which is widely done is perentage for stallion evaluation, Shetland pony folk in general don't really test for anything else. You would be lucky to find a breeder that know the genetics and proper terminolagy for the colours. But I agree they are as tough as nails, I can feed one of them very little food in winter, not hard food grain ect and very little hay and they still come out of winter fat.

I am sorry if I came across as breed basing I never meant to.
Someone who is talking total sense at last lol! Shetlands DO NOT have a dwarfism gene. If anyone has the opportunity, please pay a visit to Shetland and the Orkney Islands, preferable around November through March. You will be notice the lack of trees, the rough terrain, the biting wind, the snow, the poor grass...you will also notice that the native breeds of animals including ponies and sheep are very small, stocky and have actually evolved to live in that environment to cope with the wind, rain, storms, snow and poor grazing. True dwarfism is a deformity affecting the limbs. Shetland Ponies do not have a deformity. However, I have seen miniature ponies (called Shetlands) who DO have dwarfism and they look totally different to the true native Shetland. I think the American 'Miniature' horses look pretty enough but they should never, ever be called 'Shetlands' because they simply aren't. End of...
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    11-25-2012, 12:55 PM
  #28
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I want them to keep their hands off The Clydesdale too...LOL. I like my Clydes to have Cow Hocks, roman noses, long flowing manes, long legs and high rising gait, great big fat bums and strong powerful shoulders. Exactly as they were bred in my native Scotland. Apparently, some American has posted on a well known animal site that Clydesdales were bred only as 'flashy carriage' horses as their feet were too big to plough. How that made us laugh. When Clydesdales were bred in Scotland, only 'The Laird' had a carriage and the majority of Scotland was farming, coal/peat and fishing communities. Yep the Clydes pulled carts but the only flashy carriage horses were in America.
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    11-25-2012, 03:17 PM
  #29
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Bluebird, I live in Shetland September and April tend to be the worst for storms, summer is a made up think that never pops it lovely head up for more then a couple of days in July, but the weather right now is nasty. We get our own hurricane storm winds and on top of that we get Americas storms and we are closer to the Arctic Circle then we are mainland Britain. My mum would love herself a Clydesdale or Shire but the land up here isn't good enough to support their weight and they catch the wind because of their height and their for they get too cold and winter very poor and have to wear rugs in winter. And btw Shetlands do carry dwarfism but their height isn't caused by it as I have seen purebred shetlands which are dwarfs.
     
    11-25-2012, 04:13 PM
  #30
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Originally Posted by DrumRunner    
Oh my God!! That has to be one of cutest things I've ever seen in my life! Where is this held?
Here's a video, it's adorable.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zjSKSFZ1XsI
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