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post #31 of 52 Old 06-19-2010, 05:04 PM
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Oh look. I posted my strong opinion. I'm being honest. Just because I'm naturally blunt and I don't sugarcoat, it automatically makes me at fault? Nice to see how this works.

Whatever I said that offended you, I am not sorry. And I'm not sorry because if you don't like it you don't have to listen. I think I've made that clear already.
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post #32 of 52 Old 06-19-2010, 05:07 PM
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It was a response to the general topic. Saying that there are bad things in every sport. I mostly dislike horse racing as well, I think there are way too many horses run too young. But my Grandpa's brother was in the horse racing business in California for years in the early 50s and he loved his horses and looked out for them. There are a lot of horse racing barns that do care about the horses. My point was, you'll find bad apples in every group. No need to get defensive. You shared your opinion, others are sharing theirs.

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I would love to agree if I wasn't being harrassed in PM.

I agree with nearly every post on here. But that's just my opinion.
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If someone is harassing you by PM then you need to report it. The Mods don't allow that kind of behavior.

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Few people look at it that way though. Most performance horses i have ever met are treated better then I am, by far. It only happens in racing more because most of those owners dont train theyre own horses, some rarely see their horses. But they DO NOT mean to hurt them, in racing, those horses bring in money, WHY would someone not care about theyre money making object get ruined? Yes, they do need to change the sport, but one person not racing because they need to change it, well, theyre not going to miss you.harsh but true.
If you car race, yes you are going to take care of your vehicle, change the tires-but does it mean you CARE about the vehicle itself? taking care of a horse doesnt mean that they do actually care about him or her. I agree with you and thing you are right to say that not all are like that, definitely not all. There are lots of fantastic horse owners and trainers out there.
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It only happens in racing more because most of those owners dont train theyre own horses, some rarely see their horses. But they DO NOT mean to hurt them,
They can "not mean" to hurt the horses all they want. They still start racing them at two. That is a bad thing. No amount of saying "I really love my horses" changes that. If they really loved their horses they wouldn't participate in the sport the way it is now. Period.

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in racing, those horses bring in money, WHY would someone not care about theyre money making object get ruined?
Because then they just breed more. It's part of our throwaway culture. When was the last time you tried to get a broken thing fixed instead of just buying a new one?
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I well apologize if I have said anything that offended anyone just cuz I know if is the right thing to do. I love reading what everyone has said so far and there viewpoints.
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They can "not mean" to hurt the horses all they want. They still start racing them at two. That is a bad thing. No amount of saying "I really love my horses" changes that. If they really loved their horses they wouldn't participate in the sport the way it is now. Period.



Because then they just breed more. It's part of our throwaway culture. When was the last time you tried to get a broken thing fixed instead of just buying a new one?
no, if the horse is good and bringing in money they arent going to just think of it as a throwaway.
lastime i fixed something? today. a heck of a lot ofour culture isnt throwaway.

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If you car race, yes you are going to take care of your vehicle, change the tires-but does it mean you CARE about the vehicle itself? taking care of a horse doesnt mean that they do actually care about him or her. I agree with you and thing you are right to say that not all are like that, definitely not all. There are lots of fantastic horse owners and trainers out there.
i agree, there are a lot of fantastic ones, and i dont agree with racing horses so young, but they dont even have to care, it gets the best care, the best of everything, honestly (besides being raced to young) a race horses life isnt that bad (counting out the abusive ones, but there are those in EVERY sport) they are taken care of like a high performance animal, maybe not loved as much as some peoples standards, but there are millions more horses who have it way worse. just my opinion, im not saying i agree, but im just saying besides being to young, they dont have that bad of a life.

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Not too bad of a life? Lets see...

The majority of racehorses are stalled or in sand rolls at all times when not being ridden or worked.

Horses are designed to be moving and eating constantly - Their entire body is created to function under these conditions - Depriving a horse of movement and constand forage is really, really bad for their health. Will go into more details in the next bits.

Racehorses are fed huge amounts of energy rich feeds - usually grains, which means the feed is also super high in sugars and starches.

Sugars and starches are NOT GOOD for horses. They cause Cushings, IR, Laminitis... They are not designed to digest grains, but forage - I won't go into details but digesting grains alters the acidity of the gut and also leads to a huge spike in blood sugar.

The majority of racehorses are shod.

A shod hoof physically can not function how it was intended - The digital cushion and frog are designed to absorb shock, turning it into heat enegry in the blood and diverting it sideways via the lateral cartilage and facilitating circulation. A shod hoof lands toe first and the shock absorbers dont' even touch the ground - So all shock travels straight up the hoof wall and into the joints which have no protection against concussion. These horses are asked to gallop flat out on a hoof that isn't functioning and is directing concussion straight into the joints. Hence s many ex racehorses have soundness issues.

Need I go on?

I don't believe the entire racing industry is evil, and I do know there are many trainers and owners who do the best by their horses. I have worked at a training stable. However I don't for one second think that racehorses have a good life.

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