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    07-25-2012, 03:27 AM
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Silver Grulla

Hi Everyone , Im not sure if this should be posted here or not but here goes I am wondering how you can tell if a foal will turn out to be a silver grulla color ?? Are they born a light creamy , silvery color or what ?? The foal is definitely a grulla , just would like to know . I am about to purchase a foal born 6 weeks ago , but wont be ready till fall time (Oct) and I am looking only for a silver grulla not a blue or slate . Does anyone know how to tell if they will be a silver grulla when they shed off that baby hair ??? Sire is a dun and dam is a sorrel , I really don't know the color genetics of either . Thanks for any help you can give me


     
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    07-25-2012, 05:28 AM
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Green Broke
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"Silver" "slate" and "grey" are not types of grulla. They just describe the shade, much the same way as "blood" can be used to descibe a shade of bay. It's still just bay. Grulla is simply a black horse with a dun gene.
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    07-25-2012, 09:37 AM
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Weanling
Also, you say the sire is a dun, but what color dun?
     
    07-25-2012, 09:16 PM
  #4
Green Broke
What color dun is the sire? They may not end up with a grulla at all if he's a bay or red dun.
As for the shade of grulla, that is all down to chance in a mix like this. The only way you might be able to guarentee the color would be to make sure both parents are the desired color to start with
     
    07-25-2012, 09:50 PM
  #5
Trained
That wont even work Lillruffin. If you want a specific shade, buy a mature horse.
     
    07-25-2012, 09:56 PM
  #6
Green Broke
It doesn't really matter what color dun the sire is... Grulla is a possibility from any color dun, depending on what genetics the dam passes along. So long as the foal got the dun gene, black, and no agouti.

However, assuming the foal really is grulla, the exact shade will most likely change year to year and season to season. The odds of the foal shedding out a silver grulla and staying that way her whole life are very low.
     
    07-26-2012, 02:39 AM
  #7
Green Broke
Except that "silver grulla" is MORE than black with dun minus agouti.
Silver grulla" is black with dun minus agouti and ADD silver. Without the silver gene, the horse is just a grulla, and calling it silver is a misnomer and wrong.
     
    07-27-2012, 12:34 PM
  #8
Green Broke
I did a little more digging online, and it "silver grulla" is generally considered a shade of grulla- not necessarily indicating the presence of a silver gene. Interestingly enough, though, there's some opinion out there that that shade of grulla is associated with a single cream gene.

I'd be very interested in seeing pictures of grullas with the silver gene if you know of any. It's not an easy thing to google
     
    07-27-2012, 12:41 PM
  #9
Green Broke
Found one! I guess it shouldn't surprise me that the black in the mane and tail are significantly lightened:

     
    07-27-2012, 01:12 PM
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