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  • Classical skipper perkins, ok
  • Youngker quarter horse ranch perkins ok

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    08-12-2012, 12:18 AM
  #11
Green Broke
Wow she has alot more skip than my mare....if you can get pics to work itd be interesting to see

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    08-12-2012, 09:49 AM
  #12
Trained
Sorry, can't get pics up, cell won't cooperate. But I looked at all available pics of the Skipper W horses on allbreed and she definitely looks like them. 15.2, good bone, the typical chestnut. Neckset and shape (I like well set on necks with a slight arch), not too bulky, but substance, moves nicely, actually has a forward trot.
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    08-13-2012, 02:16 AM
  #13
Green Broke
......u just described MY mare haha
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    08-13-2012, 02:29 AM
  #14
Trained

Snipper is red red,I mean RED,and has less white. And she is a bit shorter on the leg, but I might be wrong, could be the angle your pic is taken.
Now that she filled out, poor girl was about 300lbs underweight when I got her, I'll have to get on and see what she knows.....
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    08-13-2012, 02:36 AM
  #15
Green Broke
That pic is my mare at 18 yrs so her backs dropped quite a bit. And she gets dark in the summer but in winter she gets pretty dang red haha

Josie is only 15hh so its probably the angle of the pic that makes her legs look long haha she's short
     
    08-13-2012, 02:46 AM
  #16
Trained
They both look like they have room for two saddles, tho
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    08-14-2012, 06:10 PM
  #17
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Originally Posted by spurstop    
Skipper W isn't even on that page. At that point, it's probably safe to say that any influence directly from Skipper W is pretty small.
Not necessarily. If there is only one or two runs you are absolutely correct, but when there are as many runs to a horse as that one has, the influence can be strong, despite the number of generations back - particularly when there is consistency in the breeding of progeny such as in this case.

I'm not sure I would call the horse "Skipper W bred", but it is probably about as close as you can get considering how long ago Skipper W died, with the exception of a horse like the one deserthorsewoman posted, which is very linebred, but even in that case remember her horse is 14 years older than Dreamcatcher Arabians is...
     
    08-14-2012, 06:38 PM
  #18
Trained
"Youngker's Quarter Horses

Youngker Quarter Horse Ranch was originally formed in the late 1960’s as a partnership between two brothers Joe and Billy Youngker and
Their uncle, Jessie Youngker. This partnership was fully dissolved in the early 1980’s with Joe L. Youngker and wife Joyce Youngker retaining
Sole ownership of the Youngker Quarter Horse Ranch at Perkins, Oklahoma.
One of the first stallions Youngker purchased from Weiscamp in 1979 was Skip Sure Bar, one of seven breeding stallions produced by
Hank’s great mare “Sure Bar”, and by Skippa Go by Skippa Lark. Skippa Sure Bar made a significant impact in the Youngker breeding
Program through the use of his females. Sparkle Sierra, 2002 AQHA World Champion 2 yr. Old mare, has Skippa Sure Bar in the bottom
Of her pedigree! Youngker purchased Something Classic from Larry Wilcox in 1984. Something Classic was by Skippa Lark and daughter
Of Skippers King. Something Classic was crossed on a daughter “Skip N Teeka”, by Skip N Chant, a stallion leased from Hank Weiscamp,
Which produced “Classical Skipper”. The bottom side of this mare, Skip N Teeka, went back to Skip N Gold, a Skippers King bred stallion,
which Youngker owned and used.
Classical Skipper was bred and raised on the Youngker Ranch and currently stands as the senior premier breeding stallion on the ranch today.
Other stallions currently standing at the ranch are: Skip Beyond, palomino by Classical Skipper; Skips Reply, Buckskin, by Skip O Design,
Also Buckskin; Skip To Supreme, Red Roan; ASSETS, World’s Champion Quarter Horse Stallion, Buckskin; CF IM Kiddin, Palomino; Dream
N Yellow, Buckskin; and Trevallion, sorrel by Im Kiddin. Most all of these stallions have offspring selling in this sale.
Classical Skipper, as senior sire on the Youngker Quarter Horse and Bar Y Ranches, which is primarily a horse breeding and cattle ranch and
Has sired approximately 600 off spring that have gone all over the United States as well as Germany, Canada, Mexico and Venezuela. He
Sires both performance and halter horses that have won numerous awards in the United States and other countries.
The ranch is currently operated by Joe and Joyce Youngker, daughter Sandra Strain and son Dr. Mark Youngker and four full time employees.
Youngker is a firm believer, that while he line breeds Skipper W/Weisecamp horses, he must also bring in an outcross stallion ever so often to
Interject additional beneficial traits to insure that he is keeping up with the ever modern quarter horse type. Youngker emphasis that Skipper
horses, that he and others raise, are more than one dimensional in their purpose
in that they are bred to Excel both in halter and performance
Events. However, Youngker states that no matter how appealing an outcross stallion may look, the stallion may not work in improving his

breeding program! The pedigrees and genetics of the Skipper and selected outcross may not compliment each other in which case another
Outcross or partial outcross will have to be selected. He emphasizes that the breeding of the Quarter horse is highly skilled selective and
Competitive process that may not always achieve satisfactory results by the breeder. It entails the study of pedigrees, past histories of descen
dents
In those pedigrees, and the physical traits of the various horses being bred and produced. Youngker also observes that the Quarter horse

business is so highly competitive these days that anyone going into the horse business must specialize and not try to be “jack of all trades” in
The business, so to speak. More specially, one should specialize in breeding, training, performance, racing, or showing/fitting halter horses.
Trying to diversify into more than one of these facets of the business could well spell disaster for the beginner and novice. For Example, the
Showing and fitting of halter horses as one facet can be equaled to that of an artist or an accomplished piano player. Not everyone has the
Necessary talent to do it! While on the other hand, one might do very well with one aspect of performance horses!
Youngker adds, that there are several great stallion prospects in this sale! Some are proven breeders and offer a great opportunity to the
breeder with a small band of mares to compliment and Expedite their breeding program."

From the breeder's site.

http://www.youngkerquarterhorseranch.com/

Mr. Youngker has gotten older and is no longer in good health. I've been attending his sales for years and wanted a cremello filly, either by Dun Up The Assets out of a Classical Skipper mare or by one of the CL Buckley stallions he used/owned and out of a Classical Skipper mare. When I found out last year's sale was his retirement sale I made sure to go and see what was available bred the way I wanted. There weren't a lot of fillies but Skip was bred EXACTLY as I wanted, by Dun Up The Assets out of Bucki Seal, a mare who was intensely line bred to Skipper W lines, who was also a granddaughter of Classical Skipper.

He's a combination of all I love in Weiskamp breeding and Impressive & Poco Bueno (several generations back) and he's very muscular and very mellow but also very much a using horse. He also has tested negative for all the lethals and nasties.

     
    08-14-2012, 07:41 PM
  #19
Trained
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dreamcatcher Arabians    
"Youngker's Quarter Horses

Youngker Quarter Horse Ranch was originally formed in the late 1960’s as a partnership between two brothers Joe and Billy Youngker and
Their uncle, Jessie Youngker. This partnership was fully dissolved in the early 1980’s with Joe L. Youngker and wife Joyce Youngker retaining
Sole ownership of the Youngker Quarter Horse Ranch at Perkins, Oklahoma.
One of the first stallions Youngker purchased from Weiscamp in 1979 was Skip Sure Bar, one of seven breeding stallions produced by
Hank’s great mare “Sure Bar”, and by Skippa Go by Skippa Lark. Skippa Sure Bar made a significant impact in the Youngker breeding
Program through the use of his females. Sparkle Sierra, 2002 AQHA World Champion 2 yr. Old mare, has Skippa Sure Bar in the bottom
Of her pedigree! Youngker purchased Something Classic from Larry Wilcox in 1984. Something Classic was by Skippa Lark and daughter
Of Skippers King. Something Classic was crossed on a daughter “Skip N Teeka”, by Skip N Chant, a stallion leased from Hank Weiscamp,
Which produced “Classical Skipper”. The bottom side of this mare, Skip N Teeka, went back to Skip N Gold, a Skippers King bred stallion,
which Youngker owned and used.
Classical Skipper was bred and raised on the Youngker Ranch and currently stands as the senior premier breeding stallion on the ranch today.
Other stallions currently standing at the ranch are: Skip Beyond, palomino by Classical Skipper; Skips Reply, Buckskin, by Skip O Design,
Also Buckskin; Skip To Supreme, Red Roan; ASSETS, World’s Champion Quarter Horse Stallion, Buckskin; CF IM Kiddin, Palomino; Dream
N Yellow, Buckskin; and Trevallion, sorrel by Im Kiddin. Most all of these stallions have offspring selling in this sale.
Classical Skipper, as senior sire on the Youngker Quarter Horse and Bar Y Ranches, which is primarily a horse breeding and cattle ranch and
Has sired approximately 600 off spring that have gone all over the United States as well as Germany, Canada, Mexico and Venezuela. He
Sires both performance and halter horses that have won numerous awards in the United States and other countries.
The ranch is currently operated by Joe and Joyce Youngker, daughter Sandra Strain and son Dr. Mark Youngker and four full time employees.
Youngker is a firm believer, that while he line breeds Skipper W/Weisecamp horses, he must also bring in an outcross stallion ever so often to
Interject additional beneficial traits to insure that he is keeping up with the ever modern quarter horse type. Youngker emphasis that Skipper
horses, that he and others raise, are more than one dimensional in their purpose
in that they are bred to Excel both in halter and performance
Events. However, Youngker states that no matter how appealing an outcross stallion may look, the stallion may not work in improving his

breeding program! The pedigrees and genetics of the Skipper and selected outcross may not compliment each other in which case another
Outcross or partial outcross will have to be selected. He emphasizes that the breeding of the Quarter horse is highly skilled selective and
Competitive process that may not always achieve satisfactory results by the breeder. It entails the study of pedigrees, past histories of descen
dents
In those pedigrees, and the physical traits of the various horses being bred and produced. Youngker also observes that the Quarter horse

business is so highly competitive these days that anyone going into the horse business must specialize and not try to be “jack of all trades” in
The business, so to speak. More specially, one should specialize in breeding, training, performance, racing, or showing/fitting halter horses.
Trying to diversify into more than one of these facets of the business could well spell disaster for the beginner and novice. For Example, the
Showing and fitting of halter horses as one facet can be equaled to that of an artist or an accomplished piano player. Not everyone has the
Necessary talent to do it! While on the other hand, one might do very well with one aspect of performance horses!
Youngker adds, that there are several great stallion prospects in this sale! Some are proven breeders and offer a great opportunity to the
breeder with a small band of mares to compliment and Expedite their breeding program."

From the breeder's site.

http://www.youngkerquarterhorseranch.com/

Mr. Youngker has gotten older and is no longer in good health. I've been attending his sales for years and wanted a cremello filly, either by Dun Up The Assets out of a Classical Skipper mare or by one of the CL Buckley stallions he used/owned and out of a Classical Skipper mare. When I found out last year's sale was his retirement sale I made sure to go and see what was available bred the way I wanted. There weren't a lot of fillies but Skip was bred EXACTLY as I wanted, by Dun Up The Assets out of Bucki Seal, a mare who was intensely line bred to Skipper W lines, who was also a granddaughter of Classical Skipper.

He's a combination of all I love in Weiskamp breeding and Impressive & Poco Bueno (several generations back) and he's very muscular and very mellow but also very much a using horse. He also has tested negative for all the lethals and nasties.

If I was into breeding I'd definitely bring my Snipper....
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    08-15-2012, 12:46 AM
  #20
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Ya know DHW, I bought the colt/stallion and will use him on my own mares, but I may never use him on outside mares. I intend to nominate him into the NSBA Breeders Cup and the NSBA Incentive Fund programs as well as the AQHA programs, so I can show the offspring and enjoy a little pay back when I do.

I've been in the horse business for a very long time and this year kind of decided I didn't need to breed to outside horses, or stand my horses publicly anymore. My husband and I have decided to pretty much keep our horses to ourselves and just enjoy them without the hassle of brining in outside breeding horses.

If I see a mare that I just salivate over, and can't buy her outright, I might offer a breeding to someone. But I'm pretty much done with the negative horse owners out there. Not saying you're one of them, but don't feel bad if you're not into breeding, it's getting so I'm not either!
     

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