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    04-20-2010, 03:48 PM
  #11
Green Broke
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Originally Posted by Juna    
Beautiful pony!
Thanks! She is the best little pony I have ever come across, worth 10 times what I paid for her. My son (in the pictures) is autistic, and she is amazing with him, will do anything for him.
     
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    04-21-2010, 12:08 PM
  #12
Yearling
Indy, I just wanted to say that your son is SO CUTE! I love the cheeks and the whispy hair - I think my little boy will look a lot like that as he gets older. Your son is adorable with his pony, what a cute pair!
     
    04-21-2010, 12:10 PM
  #13
Yearling
Oh, wanted to add that I'll post pics of my colt when I get a chance to take some. I was grooming his today and where he is finished shedding out, he's nearly black in some places - it's strange looking!
     
    04-21-2010, 12:21 PM
  #14
Green Broke
Shesinthebarn ~ aww thanks. He's a heck of a kid. People always think he's older because he's so TALL, he's actually just turned 6, he's in kindergarten. Everyone says he looks like a lil Harry Potter (probably because of the hair hehe, it's unmanageable). He doesn't mind, he's a Harry Potter ADDICT right now. At 6 he's already read the first two books by himself. Making him wait on the next few because they start getting a little scary. He and his pony are a heck of a team, though! Would love to see pics of your colt, please do post pictures!
     
    04-21-2010, 05:14 PM
  #15
Foal
Not to throw in a kink, but since you don't know the breeding, I suppose there is a slight possibility of her being a silver dapple.... Google images will show you how similar a silver dapple and a sooty palomino can look. I know that the sooty gene tends to give horses more of a patchy look though - usually it's like someone threw a bag of soot in the air and it settles down over their back - the back can be a bit darker and down the shoulders and rump and they can have a 'cobwebbing' or darker mask over their face. The silver dapples usually (from what I've seen before) look more uniform in the dark-light colours in the coat.....

I'd lean toward sooty though, just from what I can see :)
     
    04-21-2010, 07:47 PM
  #16
Trained
I think Wildey has the sooty gene.

He's a typical bright chestnut, but in summer, when he gets his summer coat, he gets black dapples on either side of his butt and one on the left of his neck under his mane.

They dissapear in winter, and reappear in summer, every year.

Makes him unique :]
     
    04-21-2010, 07:56 PM
  #17
Green Broke
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Originally Posted by RoyalsRebel    
Not to throw in a kink, but since you don't know the breeding, I suppose there is a slight possibility of her being a silver dapple.... Google images will show you how similar a silver dapple and a sooty palomino can look. I know that the sooty gene tends to give horses more of a patchy look though - usually it's like someone threw a bag of soot in the air and it settles down over their back - the back can be a bit darker and down the shoulders and rump and they can have a 'cobwebbing' or darker mask over their face. The silver dapples usually (from what I've seen before) look more uniform in the dark-light colours in the coat.....

I'd lean toward sooty though, just from what I can see :)
See, I had actually kind of thought about that last year. I remember seeing a thread posted on here before about silver bays, and had wondered in her case, last year her legs looked very silver, but she had no other spots that appeared so, and no dapples in her coat at all last year, which she is clearly developing this year (the pictures I took really don't demonstrate the extent, or how brown they are). Over the winter she was just kind of an orange teddy bear. *lol* But this spring, the area that were silvery on her legs last year are growing in very brown now. I wonder if they were areas that would have been sooty, and lacked pigmentation due to poor diet?
     
    05-21-2010, 11:36 AM
  #18
Green Broke
Okay, my magical color changing pony is just throwing me for a loop *lol*

Since I have not had her for a full year (I got her in September) I'm not yet familiar with her coat processes. Now that she's shed most the way out, almost all the "sooty" markings she had earlier in her shed, across her shoulder and rump, have disappeared. She'd now finishing out to how she appeared to me last year.

Maybe a little more info is in order. She was sold to me as a palomino haflinger. *lol* The fact that palomino haflinger is impossible aside - she is clearly not a haffy at all, not even part haffy as far as I can see. My vet believes her to be a section A welsh, though without any parentage to test to there is no way to confirm. I had also questioned last year whether she was even palomino, and not instead a very light flaxen chestnut, she really seems too dark a shade to be palomino. But as her winter coat grew in, she was a very light, almost buttermilky-white with orangey highlights in her long coat, and I forgot until now just how dark she is in her summer coat.

All the dapples are disappearing as her coat comes out (a few are still vaguely visible, but that's all where she hasn't finished shedding). Now that the coat on her legs has come out, she's gone back to the silvery gray markings on her legs, instead of the darker brown she had a few weeks back. The "roots" of her mane remain dark - they have always been that way.

So, I'm starting to move away from "sooty palomino" for her, because I'm not convinced she is even palomino. I'd be more inclined towards a mealy chestnut, but she doesn't really resemble that either. I looked up some more pictures of "silver dapple" that RoyalsRebel mentioned, but that seems to be a different coloration than "silver bay" (I thought they were the same). She doesn't have any real black/gray markings aside from the gray on her legs, so I don't think that's it. The silver bay seems to fit in general, but all the pictures I am finding are far darker shades than she is.

She's an enigma! It doesn't really matter of course outside my own curiosity. But I'm one of those people that has to know once I start wondering about something. So what do you think? Mealy Chestnut? Sooty Palomino? Silver Dapple? Silver Bay? Or something else entirely? I should just get her tested. *lol*

Again, my camera sucks for getting colors accurately, I apologize. I hope this gives you the general idea though.






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    05-21-2010, 03:04 PM
  #19
Foal
What a cutie!!

I don't know much about it, but I think that they change colors a lot... Here are a few pictures from a horse rescue in MS, she is a sooty palomino and these are the pictures from their site.


I'm pretty sure this is when they rescued her!!!


I think this one is in the fall... I'm not sure...


And this one is recent...



You can really see how much she has changed colors...
     
    05-30-2010, 01:24 PM
  #20
Foal
She may have some fjord in her. That would explain the dark roots of the main and dark spots on the body.
     

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