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    12-12-2009, 09:38 PM
Against black, sorrel/chestnut is recessive.
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    12-12-2009, 10:30 PM
Okay I'm here to clarify lol:

Base Horse Coat Colors Chestnut

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Basic Chestnut

There are two basic coat colors in the equine animal, either black base or chestnut base.
All horse colors are built on a black or a chestnut base and different colors are achieved by dilution genes and color modifiers to provide the wide variety of colors and patterns in existence today.
A Few Chestnut Facts
  • Chestnut horses have no black hairs, they have a red coat and red points
  • Chestnut and sorrel are interchangable terms and the same genetically
  • Colors range from dark reddish brown, to deep red to light red
  • Mane and tail can achieve a sunstreaked look making it lighter than the body hairs
  • Mane and tail can be almost black all the way to blonde and flaxen
Different Chestnut Shades

Liver or Black Chestnut

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  • Darkest red color
  • Can be very dark, however hair will retain a red color
  • Common in the morgan breed
  • Can be confused with silver dapple
Chestnut / Red Chestnut / Sorrel

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  • Lighter red hairs
  • Mane and tail can be very light in color
  • Most common shade of chestnut
Light Blonde / Sandy Chestnut

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  • Very pale red
  • Mane and tail can be very light in color
Chestnut Dilutions

A chestnut base can produce the following colors when diluted
Red Dun

Chestnut base with a dun dilution gene.
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Chestnut base with a cream dilution gene.
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Chestnut base with a double dose of the cream dilution gene.
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Red Champagne

Chestnut base with a champagne dilution gene.
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Chestnut Modifications

A chestnut base can produce the following colors when modified.
Mealy / Pangare

Chestnut base with a mealy / pangare gene.
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Sooty / Smutty

Chestnut base with a sooty / smutty gene.
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Chestnut base with a flaxen gene.
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White Patterns

Chestnut horses can display the following white patterns.

Chestnut base with an appaloosa white pattern gene
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Skewbald Pinto / Paint

Chestnut base with a pinto / paint white pattern gene
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Strawberry Roan

Chestnut base with a roan white pattern.
    12-13-2009, 06:00 PM
Very nice post! I do however have to question this one as being chestnut based champagne--

I am 90% sure he is black based, called classic champagne (the farm site says he sires the most champagne foals from chestnut mares but I can't find where it calls him chestnut based.)

The International Champagne Horse Registry shows these as examples of champagne on a chestnut base (gold champagne) which are varying shades of gold, coppery gold, pale gold, etc--

This is what they show for classic champagne (champagne on black) which is what your example most resembles to me--
    12-13-2009, 06:10 PM
I just call all reddish horses chestnut. There's light chestnut, darker chestnut, flaxen chestnut, I call them all chestnut. It's easier.

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