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post #11 of 19 Old 08-25-2011, 01:24 AM
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Originally Posted by Sea To Sky View Post
Uh pacing is a lot smoother than trotting...
I would think that depends on the horse. I don't own a Standarbred, but I do own a Fox Trotter, and her pace is MUCH worse than a hard trot. It just about throws me out of the saddle. I end up standing in the stirrups sometimes. They can both be rough, but in different ways.

Now there is also a broken or stepping pace that is smooth, but I don't think that is what we are talking about with racing Standardbreds?
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post #12 of 19 Old 08-25-2011, 04:20 PM
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Teach him to collect himself. I've ridden some very bouncy Standardbreds - bouncy to the point that my lower back was jarred and I nearly bit my tongue off - and they became absolute dreams to ride once collected. Don't get me wrong, their trot wasn't perfect, but it became much more comfortable once the horse learned how to collect up.
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post #13 of 19 Old 08-25-2011, 07:45 PM
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Just like any other breed, how rough the gait is, can depend somewhat on the horse him or herself.

Trailhorserider-- Race trained Standardbreds normally only have a pace or trot. Pacers however will do a little shuffle to go back and forth from pace to trot to pace, but it is only a few steps...just enough to get them to the other gait. If they are shuffling back and forth, I know I need to pick up the speed just a tiny bit, and then they will normally stay at one or the other *most* of the time.

Really, unless they are in hobbles, they will shuffle back and forth as they please. It is actually good for pacers to trot, as it helps develop muscles differently then at the pace. Some horses won't pace without hobbles, and some can race "free-legged".

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So many factors come into play here as have been mentioned above. However, I must state a few things (having owned and trained several OT standardbreds):
All standardbreds are NOT rough and bouncy either at a trot or a pace. Depends totally on the horse (conformation, training, muscles)
All standardbreds CAN canter and gallop and buck and rear and do all those horsey things :)
All standardbreds can trot. Not all can pace.

To encourage a canter you need to push, push, push for speed. A rough pasture for play area is very helpful for the horse to learn his balance. If you don't have a rough pasture, see if you can find some rough-ish trails to ride on at different speeds. Pacing is impossible over rough terrain. Cantering is much easier than trotting. Hills up and down encourage trotting and cantering.

I have never had opportunity to use poles, but it makes sense and if you have an area to do that, definitely give it a try.
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post #15 of 19 Old 08-26-2011, 06:35 AM
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Originally Posted by NorthernMama View Post
To encourage a canter you need to push, push, push for speed.
Just to add to this...before they get to the canter, they will do an insanely fast trot/pace. Don't slow down! You have to push them to "breaking" speed. Once they understand that you actually WANT them to canter, it will become easier to get them into it.

Think of it this way...if you were "slapped" everytime you touched a cookie, you would avoid them. They've been pulled up every time they canter and told NO. You have to erase that.
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post #16 of 19 Old 08-28-2011, 09:42 PM
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NorthernMama and VelvetsAB from training my mare i know that it is possible i was lucky and she caught on in the first lesson or two :O but just before she would canter it was a crazy fast trot so just hang on :P im sure your standie will get the hang of it.
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post #17 of 19 Old 08-29-2011, 08:33 PM
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Northern and I never said it wasn't possible. We were both just saying that it will take time and effort to get them to the point of cantering, let alone to have a balanced canter.

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post #18 of 19 Old 08-29-2011, 11:26 PM
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Originally Posted by sabowin View Post
Was he raced as a trotter or a pacer? If he was a pacer, he's probably pacing, not trotting, which is part of why it's uncomfortable for you.
That's what I was thinking

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post #19 of 19 Old 09-02-2011, 12:42 PM
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I've ridden both pacers and trotters and I have to say, I preferred the pacers. Once you adjust to the gait, it's very comfortable. I'm one of those people that gets extraordinarily tired when trying to sit a trot, but I can sit a pace for days.
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