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    10-22-2007, 11:46 PM
  #21
Foal
First of all, congratulations for choosing that you want to spend your time envolved in such a worth-while sport. As a 14 year old myself, I feel that if more kids had dreams like yours, the world would be much better. Just have fun and be safe.
I am envolved in Western, so can't help you much on details. But, I've heard and studied some about steeplechase. Dangerous: very! Hard: very. Rewarding: un-comparable! Life with horses is dangerous - period! At our age, it aint like you're planning to hit Aintree tomorrow! I do agree that you need to be prepared, but if you have the want to do this sport, that will come. All you need to keep in mind is the safety of you and the horse.
My advice would be this:
~Find somebody who is worthy and can teach you and can help you along the way. They will be priceless after the flag comes down.
~Read everything you can get a hold of on the subject. Absorb like a sponge!
~Be safe.
~Most of all, don't loose sight of your dreams!

Good luck and God Bless you!
Jenny
P.S. Also, you would love the book "Blind Beauty" by K.M. Peyton.
     
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    10-23-2007, 12:59 AM
  #22
Weanling
I personally don't like horse racing or steeplechase. I think that more of the owners and trainers of those big horses are cruel to them than in any other sport. I wouldn't condone the use of those horses in racing via steeplechase. Plus, you retire them at what? Age 4? Then they get sold as broodmares, or to slaughter or just dumped because they didn't win enough. Ridiculous. Even dressage horses aren't treated as mean as that!

I would like to state that horses aren't deer. They are in no way built like deer, and they don not have forgiving joints like deer do for jumping ungodly high fences. I realize that reining horses and barrel horses and dressage horses also can get arthritis and other joint problems, but look at how long most of those horses live, into their twenties while still being ridden, versus many permanent lame retired throughoubreds at the age of 4.

Also, bucking horses and wild mare races are cruel and should be banned. Watching those horses, they don't look happy at all. I'm sure that none of you would want a bucking cinch tightened in your flank either, or 6 beastly men pulling on your head, twisting your ears until you stand still enough to have a saddle strapped to your back.

Now don't get me wrong, follow your dream...and good luck to you if you do become some world champion, GOOD JOB!! I just don't like any of those events because I don't like the unnecessary abuse to the horses bodies or minds for such a short period of time, then they get dumped because they can no longer perform.
     
    10-23-2007, 03:38 AM
  #23
Trained
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Originally Posted by alucard
I personally don't like horse racing or steeplechase. I think that more of the owners and trainers of those big horses are cruel to them than in any other sport. I wouldn't condone the use of those horses in racing via steeplechase. Plus, you retire them at what? Age 4? Then they get sold as broodmares, or to slaughter or just dumped because they didn't win enough. Ridiculous. Even dressage horses aren't treated as mean as that!

I would like to state that horses aren't deer. They are in no way built like deer, and they don not have forgiving joints like deer do for jumping ungodly high fences. I realize that reining horses and barrel horses and dressage horses also can get arthritis and other joint problems, but look at how long most of those horses live, into their twenties while still being ridden, versus many permanent lame retired throughoubreds at the age of 4.

Also, bucking horses and wild mare races are cruel and should be banned. Watching those horses, they don't look happy at all. I'm sure that none of you would want a bucking cinch tightened in your flank either, or 6 beastly men pulling on your head, twisting your ears until you stand still enough to have a saddle strapped to your back.

Now don't get me wrong, follow your dream...and good luck to you if you do become some world champion, GOOD JOB!! I just don't like any of those events because I don't like the unnecessary abuse to the horses bodies or minds for such a short period of time, then they get dumped because they can no longer perform.
i completely agree. Well said :)
     
    10-23-2007, 07:27 AM
  #24
Foal
I hate steeplechasing and racing. I'm sooo glad my thoroughbred was never raced. He's injury free!! That, and it said steeplechasing starts at age 3. Horses shouldn't jump before age 4. Not good for their joints.
     
    10-24-2007, 07:12 PM
  #25
Foal
No.1, I think you guys are coming down too hard on a young spirit. But I guess that's your buisness.
For the best info, do a Google search and find wkipedia info on steeplechasing. Also, the entry on the Grand National is really good. I had to write a school paper on the Grand National and steeplechasing. Wikipedia was very helpful. Good luck.
     
    10-28-2007, 02:43 PM
  #26
Foal
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I think that more of the owners and trainers of those big horses are cruel to them than in any other sport. I wouldn't condone the use of those horses in racing via steeplechase. Plus, you retire them at what? Age 4? Then they get sold as broodmares, or to slaughter or just dumped because they didn't win enough. Ridiculous. Even dressage horses aren't treated as mean as that!
Excuse me!? Just because a lot of people are cruel to horses doesn't mean I am going to be. I definitely don't plan on riding a horse that does't want to jump

I would rather die than see my horse sent to a slaughter house..
Remember, it's a dream!!! Dreams don't always come true.
     
    10-28-2007, 10:40 PM
  #27
Weanling
I said more of the owners...not all.
     
    10-29-2007, 12:43 AM
  #28
Trained
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Originally Posted by Green Jasper
Quote:
I think that more of the owners and trainers of those big horses are cruel to them than in any other sport. I wouldn't condone the use of those horses in racing via steeplechase. Plus, you retire them at what? Age 4? Then they get sold as broodmares, or to slaughter or just dumped because they didn't win enough. Ridiculous. Even dressage horses aren't treated as mean as that!
Excuse me!? Just because a lot of people are cruel to horses doesn't mean I am going to be. I definitely don't plan on riding a horse that does't want to jump

I would rather die than see my horse sent to a slaughter house..
Remember, it's a dream!!! Dreams don't always come true.
i think you're missing the point. The sport in itself is cruel on the horses not just the people that make them do it. How would you like to be thrust into a sport at an age where you havent developed properly yet and all it was going to do was cause you painful issues for the rest of your life. After that is, you get flogged around a track and made jump all these fences for what??? So your owner can win some money and prestige for a couple of years before you burn out or get an unfixable injury

No one has said you would be cruel to your horses. People are stating their opinions on the subject. Like it or not, that's how it is.

Its fine to dream but you need to except the realities that are involved in this kind of sport. As I said many posts ago, I hope you fulfill your dreams but I hope you think a lot about it in the meantime
     

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