Sundance's Breed? New pics.

Wondering what ya'll think his breed/breeds could be because hubby thinks he's Morgan or a Morgan cross, I think if he is gaited at all it's Foxtrotter Hubby has started riding him and says he's really smooth. I can't see any definite gait but there are times when we lunge him he seems to have some kind of action going on in his front lol.
He's just a smidge under 15 hands, about 950-1000 lbs, his mane is very thick but has a slight wave to it. He seems to have fairly good feet, but his personality is awesome. He's still a stud but he's never acted up, acted aggressive, nothing like a normal typical stallion. He loves people and attention, is so willing and a super fast learner. He follows people around like a puppy and has never so much as even laid his ears back.
He also parks out much like a gaited horse, on his own.
In my opinion he isn't built like a Quarter Horse, he's built a bit leaner. I'm thinking he might could have some Paint in him. He has rear stockings and a blaze with a chin spot but no other white on him.

I have pics right now, probably won't have the video uploaded till this weekend when I get a better one but maybe you can atleast give us some ideas.
When he walks he normally carries his neck level with his withers and he oversteps his front feet by several inches.

Hard to tell from the pics but he just looks like a Paint to me.

If he is infact gaited or has some gaited blood i'd say morgan as well but to me he looks like a QH or Paint. Those are the main 2 breeds in my area so just about everyone with horses has got one & not all of them are chunky.
Also, just because he parks out in the back doesnt mean that he gets it from any gaited breed influence. That could just be the way he's built.

He rode again this evening and I got a video of him loping and trotting and lunging so I'll try to get that uploaded tomorrow.

Parking out is a trained thing. If your horse does it just loose it can indicate health problems.. so I'd suggest getting a vet out if he does that regularly, to be safe.

If the horse is gaited, it is most probably not a Morgan. There are only a few gaited Morgans, the vast majority are not.. knee action does not equal gaited.

How old is he? That would influence my guesses.. because him looking like he does as a youngster would mean something totally different than him looking like he does as an adult.. If he's young (under, say, 4) OR if he is under say, 6-7 BUT was malnourished as a young horse, he may well have a good amount of filling out to do still and may end up looking very different in a few years..

From looking at his teeth he's probably 4 1/2 or so. All we know about him is he was left in a pasture with other stallions and mares and not really messed with. He was a little ribby when we got him but not anything bad.
He "parks" out on his own but it's not all the time.
I noticed this morning when hubby rode, at a lope it almost appeared that he was cross cantering...on one lead in the front and the opposite in rear but I looked up a MO Foxtrotter loping and it looks very similar to what he looks like, but I'd have to find a way to do his lope in slow motion to see what exactly he's doing lol. He has a VERY nice lope, collected and not strung out at all. Still working on videos but it is coming

He might be some mix of all the stuff suggested. I don't think he's purebred Morgan, he doesn't really look like one. Paint I could go with, but i've seen paints look like everything from drafts to Arabians, so it's always a wild guess. He does look nice, hope you enjoy him!

Here's the video, finally.

He's quite a pretty boy isn't he. Who knows. He could be a mix of anything really. Horses often park when they are uncomfortable or have been trained to do so.

I would like to mention something though. Are you really keeping a stud horse in with barbed wire? This is incredibly dangerous for all horses, but much worse for a stud, if he ever decides to go visiting.

Lizzie

He looks like a regular grade paint to me. I don't see anything in his movement on the video to suggest any gaited breeding in there. He also doesn't look 4 to me.

On the part of your video with his second ride, it did look like he was doing something awkward with his hind legs at one point, but that almost looked more like discomfort or not being used to the weight of a rider than anything else. If he is parking without having been trained for it, I would suggest having him looked at by a vet. It could be he is having difficulties with urinating, I've seen horses (geldings) take that stance when they have urinary issues. Bonus, you can arrange to have the vet geld him when he comes out!