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post #31 of 63 Old 06-08-2011, 11:01 AM
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NO horse I have known that has been trained to park out does randomly park out in the pasture.
A horse that stands all camped out like that on their own is not doing something it was trained to do. It is standing that way because it is uncomfortable to stand properly.

I watched the video you posted in April of him just walking and he moves funky behind even walking.
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Hmm, he's only parked out on his own a few times. He did it once when we first put the saddle pad on him but I've seen lots of green horses do that at first, he did it once when he was at the fence and a couple times under saddle, only once with hubby riding him. I just can't see anything off. I watch him walk and trot and just can't see anything. The only difference in his walk and Chanti's is that he has a really long stride and oversteps himself once he gets walking.
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In the photos you posted in the past (I have not looked at the video close enough to notice) where you stated he over steps he was not tracking up under himself at all.
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He oversteps his front tracks by a good 3-4 inches when he's really walking out, you can see it in the video of him being rode and you can see it in some pics where he's walking.
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He oversteps his front tracks by a good 3-4 inches when he's really walking out, you can see it in the video of him being rode and you can see it in some pics where he's walking.
This post with this photo is what I was referring to.

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He has an overstride also

That is clearing not tracking up!
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This post with this photo is what I was referring to.



That is clearing not tracking up!
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Doesn't tracking up mean that the hind steps into the place where the fore foot was? In the walk, as this photo, one would have to imagine where the fore was when it was on the ground, because it is now ahead (normal) and the rear is moving forward. If I look at this picture, I can easily imagine that the rear right is stpping into exactly the place where the front right just was.

At the trot, it would be easier to see the tracking up because the rear right would be almost touching the front right coming back, becasue as diagonal pairs the reach toward each other every other step.
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What's clearing? I have never heard of that in reference to how a horse walks. That back left foot will land about 4" in front of the front. That's how he's always walked.
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HC84, nobody likes to hear that their horse may be sore and looks off. That this many people see it should tell you more than anything.
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What's clearing? I have never heard of that in reference to how a horse walks. That back left foot will land about 4" in front of the front. That's how he's always walked.

Horsecrazy,

I , too, am a bit confused regarding the talk of "tracking up". Tracking up means that the hind foot reaches forward at least to where the front foot was placed. Over reaching means it tracks further than where the fore was. I think in the walk it is pretty normal to reach a bit beyond the print made by the fore, but in the trot, the rear should reach just TO the front, no farther. Because if it reaches farther, then it will strike the front foot.

I don't know why some folks are talking about overreaching and tracking up. I wanted clarification from them.

I am not seeing lameness in your horse either. I watched the video twice and I did not see lameness. His movement might be a bit unsteady under rider, and he did hollow out and dash forward in the "trot" under saddle portion of the video, but this could be just being green, new to a rider and/or a saddle that doesn't fit his unmuscled back.
I may be missing something, I admit to not having near as much experience as many of the members here. But I do not see lameness.

As regards the other matters, I have no real comment. I didnt' read the other threads. I think maybe you should have gelded him sooner, but you wiill have to wait. I do hope you don't end up with a foal that is an accident. It's kind of like the many puppies and kittens that are 'accidently' made. There are so many of them out there, and folks would rather buy a purebred. But , if you are certain it would be YOURs forever, then that is your choice.
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Obvious headbobbing lameness, no. Genera stiffness and a wonky hind end that DOES indicate a problem: yes.
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