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post #11 of 100 Old 12-10-2012, 06:08 PM
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Breezy other horses than drafts can and do get that tall. Also the tobiano pattern is not present in Clydesdale.
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post #12 of 100 Old 12-10-2012, 06:50 PM
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well since I have spotted drafts in my field I would say percheron/spotted draft/paint and yes if a draft is crossed with a lighter breed they can be big foals. I have a NSH/Belgian that is 17.3 and I have a percheron/Paint that's 18.2 ( My stud )
Looking at your colt all I can say is YUMMMMMM I so want him not often you get red and white spotted drafts see alot of the black and whites though lol.

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post #13 of 100 Old 12-10-2012, 06:53 PM
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Even though feather is recessive, I'd expect to see more feather and heavier bone, if he was a draft cross. I think the mare was crossed with some type of tobiano light horse. Could have been a spotted Saddlebred, especially if she came from Amish country. This especially, looking at his head and ears.

Handsome colt. What are your plans for him?

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He is beautiful
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post #15 of 100 Old 12-10-2012, 07:09 PM
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Perch X Paint is a common cross around here, so that's my guess.
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post #16 of 100 Old 12-10-2012, 07:18 PM Thread Starter
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Thank you for all of your replies. I'm sorry about the lack of geographical information. I filled it in in my profile after the post thinking that it would show up. Mama is from NW Georgia.

Also, to add another twist that may or may not be relevant.

Back in May, some friends of ours put a calendar up on my stall that had a picture of a foal that looked EXACTLY like Ricky. This was that picture...



Well, I took the calendar home and started tracking down the photographer so that I could hopefully track down the owner and find out. The publisher got me the photographer information and I got in touch with the photographer. This picture is of a Vanner filly named Ella who was foaled in NW Georgia within 70 miles of the exact spot that we bought Ricky's mama. Long LONG story short, I tracked down Ella's sire's owner to see if there was any semen that was sent down that didn't take. The sires' owner checked her records and reported no missing semen or semen that reportedly didn't take. Further, she dismissed the notion that he could be vanner based on him not having enough feathers. Personally, I don't know... but at the time, the two were identical in every way that I could see. I don't believe he's vanner at this point because his feathering really hasn't kicked into overdrive like I would expect it to if he were vanner.



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As in my previous post, I doubt the other half is a Gypsy. The majority of Gypsy owners do not agree with crossbreeding. Also, most Gypsies are about 14 hands and I think the sire of your colt, was probably finer boned and taller. If the sire was a Gypsy, I'd expect to see a much different head on your colt.

You might never find out who the sire was, so I wouldn't really worry about it. Most people with grade horses, never know who the dam or sire were.

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post #18 of 100 Old 12-10-2012, 07:32 PM
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I would say clyde and percheron, because there is no way that an average sized horse, would get that tall unless he was crossed with a draft breed.

I would say another draft breed.

I think if he were draft horse on both sides, he'd have a more roman nose. I think he is paint x (which really means QH, since a paint horse is basically a QH with a certain coloration)
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As in my previous post, I doubt the other half is a Gypsy. The majority of Gypsy owners do not agree with crossbreeding. Also, most Gypsies are about 14 hands and I think the sire of your colt, was probably finer boned and taller. If the sire was a Gypsy, I'd expect to see a much different head on your colt.

You might never find out who the sire was, so I wouldn't really worry about it. Most people with grade horses, never know who the dam or sire were.

Lizzie
I agree... we don't think he's Vanner, it was just VERY crazy how that unraveled at first. To answer your previous question, we're keeping him and mama together with us. I can't break them up lol
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No matter what breeding he's got, you're just going to have to stick around long term so we can watch the beautiful guy grow up.

You lucked out, there are many draft cross horses out there (especially when the cross is not well thought out) that are rather....unfortunate looking. You're guy doesn't have that. Sure, he's going through some weanling fuglies right now with the gangly legs and big head, but when he fills out. . . Wowza!

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