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  • Devils bag bloodline as eventer
  • "devil his due" eventer

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    02-18-2011, 02:39 PM
  #11
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Originally Posted by Carleen    
CJ82Sky, I'd love to know what you think of my guy's lines. Hopefully, the link below works.

Backflash Pedigree
at a quick glance I like.

Deputy minister is a little far back for my liking but i'm extremely biased as I have 2 DM horses. I'd prefer to see war deputy there rather than dehere but again that's be being biased since dehere is solid. Finality is also nice and loves turf which usually carries over to a decent eventer however he's a bit long backed for what I like - and based on the below im guessing your boy would make a nice hunter/eq horse over dressage's rounder movement.

On the bottom you have halo's son devil's bag which is prob my favorite halo colt second only to the great sunday silence. If only that went to devil his due rather than diablo you'd have even more stamina there! Diablo's a looker, but also long backed and high withered so i'm guessing based on lines your guy has broad shoulder and is top narrow/base wide (oooh fun saddle fitting haha). Slightly long in the back and loin with a good shoulder angle that will help make up for that. Despite that, the deputy minister and halo influences probably gave him a decent hind end for a smooth jump though he can tend to get a little flat/long OF and prefers a long spot.

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    02-18-2011, 03:17 PM
  #12
Foal
This is a great thread. Here's my girl, Soy La Una a.k.a Lady, at 21yrs. Old running with her colt Darling Roberto, a.k.a Pistol. And here's a link to her pedigree: Soy La Una Thoroughbred
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    02-18-2011, 03:19 PM
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Oooh I should have told you to not show me pics first so I can guess based on bloodlines haha!!!! Darnit. Ok will check her out shortly. And I still owe a danzig review (not my fave stud but not that I dislike his lines either - so I just need to dig a little more before spewing off opinions lol!)
     
    02-18-2011, 03:22 PM
  #14
Weanling
Dont forget my girl :)
     
    02-18-2011, 03:30 PM
  #15
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Nevermind haha bc I don't see much in those lines other than way back. Most of lady's lines were unraced. I'm guessing that it was a smaller breeder from the looks of it - but also seem to have a good eye for confo from what I can find. So many never had starts. Im guessing they were bred to be riding horses not racehorses bc it is odd to have 3 generations with next to no race history whatsoever.

Lady never broke her maiden in 4 tries (Horse Stat Profile Page for Soy La Una) and was intelligently retired from racing, im guessing sound. From the looks of it, she doesn't have a strong pedigree to run and that seems to be holding true, but nicely put together lineage - which hard to tell from the pics but she looks nice to me running and playing! That I assume someone didn't care if these horses were pushed or not bc they had potential in other areas as well.

Wish I could tell you more but she's from semi-obscure lines (good stuff farther back but like I said I look at closest 2-3 gens.).

I assume you didn't breed her for racing right?
     
    02-18-2011, 03:43 PM
  #16
Foal
CJ82Sky,

No I wasn't the original breeder. She came to me as a 16yr.old. She went on from her poor racing career to be a fantastic jumper. And when turned out to play would just breeze and breeze. Loves to run, but as you know didn't and doesn't have the speed.

We love her. I don't know if it was the way she was raised, but she has never become an affection horse. Pretty much, put the hay there, clean my corral, make sure my water is cleaned and filled, and I'll take a few apples and carrots as soon as you have time. The only way I know that she truly loves me, is she's saved my butt over jumps a number of times. Caught me on her neck, before I could finish my free fall.
     
    02-18-2011, 04:05 PM
  #17
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looking now.

Offhand her dam lines are very weak (racing wise).

<disclaimer>oh and PLEASE know im looking at TB RACING LINES. If I say dam lines suck, that doesn't mean YOUR horse sucks, just that for racing, the dam is unimpressive lol. Just wanted to clarify that!!!</disclaimer>

Anyway yeah weak dam lines. Storm cat holds true to stamp his get so what I said above still applies. Compact-ish qh looking (almost not quite as thick) little longer in the back. Overall im going to guess the storm cat type look, athletic build, energetic then tires out after about 40 min or so. Sorry I can't say more as dam lines are a big fat question mark lol and im not going to make stuff up just to ramble ;)
     
    02-18-2011, 04:08 PM
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CJ82Sky,

No I wasn't the original breeder. She came to me as a 16yr.old. She went on from her poor racing career to be a fantastic jumper. And when turned out to play would just breeze and breeze. Loves to run, but as you know didn't and doesn't have the speed.

We love her. I don't know if it was the way she was raised, but she has never become an affection horse. Pretty much, put the hay there, clean my corral, make sure my water is cleaned and filled, and I'll take a few apples and carrots as soon as you have time. The only way I know that she truly loves me, is she's saved my butt over jumps a number of times. Caught me on her neck, before I could finish my free fall.
awesome! Yeah she's **** athletic looking and I love that while having semi-unknown lines, that people RETIRED her and didn't go and keep trying to run her! She def is built for jumping from your pics :) yay happy retired racehorse stories!
     
    02-18-2011, 04:30 PM
  #19
Weanling
Thanks!

I wouldnt really say she is QH-ish, but she is a little on the smallish side for a TB. I don't think her back is too long, do you?

She does have a bit of a refined head I believe, its not big and bulky. She wears a cob size as you can see this halter is huge on her (it was my old QH's halter).

Head


Body (Please ignore the weight, I have only had her 2 months and have her on a new diet):


I am kinda sad to hear about the lack of endurance since I would like to Event with her, but maybe that's something we can overcome with fitness. I have noticed that she becomes winded fairly easily, however I have attributed that to the fact that she is just now 5 and hasnt had much as far as consistent work in the last year.
     
    02-18-2011, 04:46 PM
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Dubya - please note my assessment is based on limited line knowledge and in no way translates to her total potential!

Id think with condition she'd be great for eventing. Remember you're still all in talking less than an hour of work. I think she'd struggle with something like hunter paces but only time will tell. That's something that needs more stamina bc it can be 30 - 40 jumps up to 3'6" over 12+ miles. WAY more than an event course of 1/4 that!

Don't stress it. And whenever you are unsure - remember john henry!
     

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