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    02-18-2011, 04:49 PM
  #21
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I've found conformation and bloodlines are a great study but real life heart means a lot more.

Just look at john henry who at nearly EVERY stage of his life was a conformational nightmare! Yet was horse of the year twice with enough winnings to put all the rest to shame!


     
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    02-18-2011, 05:20 PM
  #22
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Ok here - you can tell me about mine: Captain Hook Thoroughbred
     
    02-18-2011, 05:31 PM
  #23
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I'm out for the nite! I'll get back to you on danzig over the weekend I promise :)

Anyone want to take a stab at crimsonsky's horse? I already know about the horse so i'll leave that for someone else. Enjoy guys!


Have a great weekend :)
     
    02-19-2011, 05:09 PM
  #24
Weanling
I don't know a lot about this stuff it's so interesting to learn!

Crimson, Shasta and captain hook are related! =). She also is from hyperion. I'm sure this is probably not a big deal and happens all the time but this is the first time I have seen it so it's cool for me!

CJ what do you think about Seattle slew offspring?
     
    02-19-2011, 05:37 PM
  #25
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CJ82Sky, can you look at mine? First page
     
    02-19-2011, 05:51 PM
  #26
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CJ82Sky, when you have a moment can you look at mine
Alyrunj Thoroughbred
I know nothing about racing or race horses lol
     
    02-19-2011, 08:21 PM
  #27
Foal
I've groomed lots of storm cats, but my favorite sire has got to bed Stephanotis. They always have a lot of personality and a lot of them are a word I cannot say but I love grooming them anyways they always have a spunk to em
     
    02-19-2011, 09:29 PM
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Originally Posted by lyssabear    
I've groomed lots of storm cats, but my favorite sire has got to bed Stephanotis. They always have a lot of personality and a lot of them are a word I cannot say but I love grooming them anyways they always have a spunk to em
oooh don't know much about him - tell me more I want to learn!!! Thanks!!!

Going to catch up on some of these in a few.

Haven't personally handled seattle slew offspring so I can't say - the lines I comment more about personality on are the ones that I also have handled their offspring. Don't like to speak about things that I haven't experienced. I have heart they are very athletic and can be quite versatile depending on the dam.

Danzig I knew a few horses with his lines but for the LIFE of me I can't remember which ones. The one im thinking of is a cherokee run / buckpasser / damascus offspring and I keep thinking it's him but it's not and it is driving me insane.
     
    02-19-2011, 10:37 PM
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Originally Posted by equiniphile    
Molly's Cat's grandsire is Storm Cat, she is out of Rachel Allyn and by Tomorrow's Cat. She also has Personal Flag, Northern Dancer, Secretariat (Bold Ruler x Somethingroyal), and Damascus.
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Excel is out of Vienna Dawn and by Diligence. Mr Prospector, Raise a Native, Gold Digger, Buckpasser, Marshua, Native Dancer, Nashua, Princequillo. He has a lot of linebreeding to these names.
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Sultan's Concubine is a mare we had a long time ago, out of Our Raiser and by Island Sultan, also has Bold Ruler and Bold Ruler's What a Pleasure, Princequillo, Count Fleet, Man o' War, Man o' War's War Siren, and Man o' war's War Siren.
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ok so from what I see I like molly and rachel allyn sounds nice on paper. Not sure about her dam lines but her sire lines are strong and of course the storm cat lines are good and solid which is nice. I'd love to know more about her granddam lines and I asked my friend to join us in here who I talk tb lines with all the time to see if she can help :)

I'll be honest that I don't know much about excel's lines unless you go farther back and I don't feel that has nearly as much relevance. Diligence looks slightly downhill to me from what I can see, but other than that nicely put together. If he's like his sire, i'm going to guess that he can get a little heavy on the fore even if not built that downhill but again i'll be honest this is just a guess. (i won't bs you - I know some lines but there are DEF more people with w LOT more knowledge than me out there!!!!) there's some nice irish and french lines in there that I like a ton not bc I know them but bc the irish and french tbs tend to be of more substantial bone (generally speaking) so making an assumption here (and hoping it was passed on to him too!). Would love to see what balanced out the slightly thick neck and downhill of the top lines with the international influence of the bottom - neither do I see major flaws with - so i'd think there was a chance that while not having a ton of speed, he def has some stamina and a solid build - maybe not as leggy but certainly with some good heartgirth depth and shoulder reach and a broad hind. Yes? No? I'm super curious to see - and to get morgan in here bc I think she knows more about IRE and FR lines.

K sultan's concubine (what a name lol!) - LOVE her top lines. What a pleasure and bold ruler that close are nice. Island sultan was mediocre as a racehorse but the other two are a nice strong influence. Again I don't know much about the dam lines - I never understood the breeding of mares line after line with no race record but that's just my personal opinion as there are plenty of mares like that producing winners. So eh who am I to say lol!

Ok im beat after a long day of riding and what not. More later :) can't wait to hear more on what your horses are actually like!
     
    02-19-2011, 10:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Rachel1786    
CJ82Sky, when you have a moment can you look at mine
Alyrunj Thoroughbred
I know nothing about racing or race horses lol
oooh alydar 2nd generation back?! Impressive! Hmm alyfoe was unraced and just used as a stud - wonder why? Anyone know? I'll try to find out more if I have time. Ugh they raced the daylights out of arunj the poor mare. 4th generation is SUPER strong as well though farther back too - I think despite it being farther back with all those strong influences that it could still show through. Interesting - ridan is a great sprinter - nice mix of stamina and speed - so while alyrunj wasn't a good runner, i'm guessing there's some really nice athleticism in there with decent fire and stamina. Interesting indeed :)
     

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