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        12-11-2012, 07:31 PM
      #21
    Showing
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    Originally Posted by TexasBlaze    
    I think quarter horses when I hear "Most versatile." Quarter horses are everywhere. Polo, ALL english and western classes, flat racers, cart horses, dressage, jumping, you name it a QH has done it.
    Doubt they'd do we'll in a 5-gaited class.... ;)
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        12-11-2012, 08:17 PM
      #22
    Trained
    You guys clearly don't remember the poster who had taught her Paint mare to gait...
         
        12-11-2012, 08:43 PM
      #23
    Trained
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    Originally Posted by JustDressageIt    
    Doubt they'd do we'll in a 5-gaited class.... ;)
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    I'm not convinced. Mum had a QH gelding who walked, ambled, trotted, paced, cantered and galloped. Yes you read right. We have no idea of his bloodlines and best we can determine it was a physical/psychological problem, once we had his physical issues sorted he didn't gait... but there is "Indian Shuffle" in QH, Paint and Appy lines so who knows?

    I do believe that QH are most versatile for Western disciplines and it's between TB and Warmblood for most versatile for English disciplines. Far as I'm concerned a good warmblood has both jumping AND dressage in its bloodlines and can do either or both with aplomb - AND is refined enough to make time on cross-country, and jumps with enough style that it could do well in Hunters as well. A good TB, much the same, but it is a lot harder to find a good TB than it is to find a good WB, purely because the majority of TB's are bred to race, and racing likes different conformation/movement types to performance disciplines.

    English and Western have COMPLETELY different conformation types. What excels in Western disciplines is highly likely to bomb out in English disciplines once it gets to any reasonably high level. Likewise an English-built horse is unlikely to excel in Western disciplines.

    I love the QH breed, and some Appendixes are BRILLIANT dressage/jumping/eventing horses as well as being reasonably good for Western disciplines, but my heart really is with the TB's and TB crosses.

    Main reason for that is that you can cross a TB with almost anything, if the cross is done right, and the resulting foal has the potential to be really something. While the TB has been a "pure" breed for a long time, it has a LOT of different types and a range of different temperaments.
         
        12-11-2012, 10:00 PM
      #24
    Showing
    I don't consider physical/psychological problems as... erm.. true "gaiting."

    A 5 gaited class consists of Walk, Trot, Slow Gait, Rack, and Canter. I've yet to see a QH slow gait or rack...


    *And to edit my post above... well, not we'll*
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        12-12-2012, 03:52 AM
      #25
    Trained
    -rubs temples-

    No, a QH or TB can't gait. And no, a gaited horse isn't going to be built for the high intensity of other sports.

    This is kind of giving me a headache guys...Lol...
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        12-12-2012, 06:43 AM
      #26
    Foal
    A lot of breeds can do most things if they are give the oppurtunity, personaly I love the Australian Stock Horse because I have one and compete successfully in many disciplines (from pc to polocrosse and most things in between) but in saying that I have done the same on a Saddle Pony, Welsh, QH, and a thoroughbred.....so it really all comes down to what they are given the oppurtunity.
         
        12-12-2012, 11:14 AM
      #27
    Foal
    To me, the breed is an indication of what a given horse is likely to be. Horses are not cars where all of a particular model are the same. They're individuals whose breed gives you a good idea of what they may be like, but there are really wide variations.

    Asking what breed is the most versatile is tricky because it either assumes that most horses of a breed are pretty much the same, or it asks which breed shows the widest variation within its registry. Neither of those is necessarily a good thing.
         
        12-12-2012, 11:32 AM
      #28
    Green Broke
    I don't honestly think this discussion makes any sense.
    If you were going to buy a car, you were single and wanted to commute to and from work, etc, you would likely look at a small to mid sized car
    . If you drove all over the country you would look for something fuel efficient and reliable.
    If you had 4 kids you would look for a van.
    If you had to carry dirty cargo and drive over rough terrain, a jeep, truck or SUV.

    Could a sports car commute to and from the grocery store? Carry 2 kids to school? Sure. Is it the best suited? No.
    Can a big truck go long distances? Sure, but it will cost much more in fuel.

    Debating which breed is more versatile is like asking which class of vehicle is more versatile. The truth is, types of vehicles were developed for different purposes. So were breeds of horses
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        12-12-2012, 02:12 PM
      #29
    Foal
    I had a mostly-arab pony bred by these people:
    https://sites.google.com/site/fouroaksarabians/

    Who had championships in just about everything, all from open shows. Leadline, walk, w/t hunter & western, jr. Exhib, adult, western riding, barrels (won money), dressage (showed first level, schooled 3rd), hunter and jumpers, halter and showmanship, and he'd do sliding stops bridless, run a cross country course, pull a cart or carry a pack, and do limited distances rides (we never had time to get away for a real endurance ride).

    That said, I've also had Morgans (Morgans do it all!) and TBs who did at least most of that. I love versatility.
         
        12-12-2012, 02:46 PM
      #30
    Weanling
    This is an impossible question to answer - I have a 1/4 Arabian and 3/4 grade draft mix mare who has shown successfully in low levels of:

    Dressage
    Jumping
    English and western rail classes
    Trail class
    Gymkhana

    She is also broke to drive, and has been a pack horse in the mountains. She is tough enough to survive free on the range for months at a time (and has done it), but capable of placing #1 in dressage and gymkhana classes at the territorial level.
         

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