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    09-01-2010, 11:01 PM
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Weanling
Question Which Warmblood Breed Is She??

On Friday I'm picking my new mare, and while talking to a friend about her my friend asked, "What breed is she?" And I realized that I have no idea what to say. I know her full pedigree, but she's warmblood, so I never know which warmblood breed to say. Her sire is State of the Art, an Art Deco son. Her dam is a Hanoverian whose name I cannot remember right now. If it helps her sire is registered AWS, Pinto, and Dutch; approved RPSI I believe... I am so confused
     
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    09-02-2010, 06:11 AM
  #2
Yearling
Silverwood Farm's Stallions : : : Art Deco, Sempatico, Hall of Fame and State of the Art

^This is the sire, correct? Because of his breeding I'd say that the mare is probably registered as an American Warmblood.
     
    09-02-2010, 09:17 AM
  #3
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Originally Posted by sixlets    
On Friday I'm picking my new mare, and while talking to a friend about her my friend asked, "What breed is she?" And I realized that I have no idea what to say. I know her full pedigree, but she's warmblood, so I never know which warmblood breed to say. Her sire is State of the Art, an Art Deco son. Her dam is a Hanoverian whose name I cannot remember right now. If it helps her sire is registered AWS, Pinto, and Dutch; approved RPSI I believe... I am so confused
Supermane is right. The only registry she could be would be AWS but just maybe could be RPSI also. Those are the only two viable options.
     
    09-02-2010, 12:16 PM
  #4
Weanling
I'm not going to get her registered, I just don't know what breed to call her when I go to shows
     
    09-02-2010, 12:38 PM
  #5
Yearling
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Originally Posted by sixlets    
I'm not going to get her registered, I just don't know what breed to call her when I go to shows
If she isn't registered she isn't really a breed at all, just generically a (pinto) warmblood.

I'm surprised she isn't already registered with how expensive the stud fee is.
     
    09-02-2010, 12:43 PM
  #6
Weanling
If the dam is APPROVED (not just registered) RPSI, I believe you may register her as RPSI and get approval. It all depends on where the sire & dam are reg'd. And approved.
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    09-02-2010, 03:50 PM
  #7
Weanling
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Originally Posted by Supermane    
If she isn't registered she isn't really a breed at all, just generically a (pinto) warmblood.

I'm surprised she isn't already registered with how expensive the stud fee is.
I was too when they told me... The people I'm buying her from are the people that bred her, and I'm not sure why they never registered her. Probably just the expense. They advertised her as Oldenburg so I'll probably just go with that.
     
    09-02-2010, 07:38 PM
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Originally Posted by sixlets    
I was too when they told me... The people I'm buying her from are the people that bred her, and I'm not sure why they never registered her. Probably just the expense. They advertised her as Oldenburg so I'll probably just go with that.

That would be a total lie. The sellers lied and you would be perpetuating that lie.

Actually right now she is a colored grade horse...absolutely nothing more unless you do more for her than her breeders did. If you choose to do nothing then you are no better than they are.
     
    09-02-2010, 09:08 PM
  #9
Weanling
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Originally Posted by Spyder    
That would be a total lie. The sellers lied and you would be perpetuating that lie.

Actually right now she is a colored grade horse...absolutely nothing more unless you do more for her than her breeders did. If you choose to do nothing then you are no better than they are.
Does it really matter that much to you? I was just curious what other people thought, not really looking to get attacked. Her breed doesn't matter to me, you could call her a mutt for all I care. So if you could please back off from calling her owner and me a liar that would be greatly appreciated.
And they weren't lying. Art Deco, her grandsire, is registered Oldenburg, she does have Oldenburg blood, and her size and build looks like an Oldenburg so that's what they went with.
     
    09-02-2010, 09:24 PM
  #10
Yearling
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Originally Posted by sixlets    
Does it really matter that much to you? I was just curious what other people thought, not really looking to get attacked. Her breed doesn't matter to me, you could call her a mutt for all I care. So if you could please back off from calling her owner and me a liar that would be greatly appreciated.
And they weren't lying. Art Deco, her grandsire, is registered Oldenburg, she does have Oldenburg blood, and her size and build looks like an Oldenburg so that's what they went with.
It's a sensitive issue. It's really not much different from someone saying they have a TB when they really have an appendix qh. Since QH are not allowed in the TB registry that would technically be a lie even though they do have TB blood. Since your mare has paint and QH breeding she would never be accepted into the oldenburg registry so no, I don't think you should call her an oldenburg. And yes, the previous owners did lie about her breed. She is a well bred mare, but dispute who her grandsire she does not meet the requirements for registration, had you wanted to register her.

If people ask, call her a warmblood, because that's what she is. If you want her to have an actual breed then you should consider getting her registered with the AWS, as many warmblood people will get very touchy about mislabeling.
     

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