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    06-22-2013, 06:20 PM
  #11
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Okay so these are the only pics I had that were halfway decent even though their from 3 years ago. I will try to get some better ones. And if it makes any difference, she is about 15.3 hh tall, is 11 years old, and has a smooth but shorter stride. Im pretty sure she's not thoroughbred just because i've been around thoroubreds a lot and she doesn't seem like one. The only similarity is she is super fast. But I could be wrong about the thoroughbred. Also I just checked her coggins and it says her breed is pinto, but that's a color so idk... Honsestly I know hardly anything about her and I just really want to know more.
Well she's a pretty thing, isn't she. Difficult to tell what she might be. With nothing known of her background, she is a pinto and not a Paint. Remember, that QHs are also very fast, so it is quite possible she has QH in her background somewhere. I like her very much.

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    06-22-2013, 11:06 PM
  #12
Foal
I can see her stockiness better in these pictures, possible Qh, however my horse looks a lot smaller in pictures and she is not, strong and stocky , over 15 h...im no expert, just using educated guess, if she is qh and thoroughbred, then she is classified a paint, I was guessing overo in marking, but that always confuses me.
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    06-22-2013, 11:13 PM
  #13
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Oops one more question, when my horse runs on her own, she holds her tail up like an Arabian. Was just wondering if all horses have this quirk or only certain breeds? Oh and sorry to hear about your granddaughters loss. When I had to put my horse down, I temp lost my love of horses for a few years :(
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    06-22-2013, 11:41 PM
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Thank you. Because he was in his mid to late 30's, his death was not unexpected, but in a way it was, because right up until the end, he was a very hot horse and could wear a rider out on a long trail ride. He was one of those horses who never wanted to come home. Certainly not barn-bound. A wonderful horse for youngsters who knew how to ride.

But now I need to ask some questions. I thought always, that to be a Paint, which is designated as a 'breed', horses had to have a known background and be registered within that registry. The OP doesn't know her horse's background, but are you saying, that if she thinks the horse is half Thoroughbred/QH, then it automatically becomes a Paint? I hope some knowledgeable people jump in here, because I've never heard of a registry which accepts the say-so of a horse's background, to be approved. We of course, except iffy dog registries which will 'register' anything.

I believe the OP can register her horse in the Pinto registry, also.

The OP's horse, appears Tobiano to me, although could carry frame, if we knew her background.

Many horses with no Arabian in their background, hold their tails flagging or high. Even some of our Gypsies do.

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    06-23-2013, 03:15 AM
  #15
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Wasn't referring to registry, just talking about breed of horse. And like I mentioned... I am no expert, just an educated guess based on pictures and Ownership of a Tobiano Paint...
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    06-23-2013, 02:04 PM
  #16
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Paint is a breed. A paint is a colored (markings specified as acceptable in the registry guidelines) horse that has one or both parents registered with the breed registry (APHA). If only one horse is registered with APHA the other must be registered through the JC (TB if international then the registry must be accepted by the JC) or AQHA (QH or appendix) AND accepted for listing through an approval process by the APHA. A solid horse can be registered paint if both parents are registered as outlined above. If you have a horse of unknown breeding that meets the color guidelines they can be registered pinto. Pinto is not a breed though it is a color registration only and all breeds are accepted if they meet the guidelines. FTR a QH that has ecessive color can now be registered as QH through the AQHA. One of the reasons for the APHA coming into existence was to have a registry for the QHs that were not accepted into AQHA due to excessive color because we all know a good horse is a good horse irregardless of color.
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    06-23-2013, 02:57 PM
  #17
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Thank you QB. That was my understanding. There always seems to be a lot of confusion, with those who call anything with colour and not registered within the APHA, a 'Paint', when it is really a pinto. Even our Gypsies can be considered pintos, but never a Paint.

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    06-23-2013, 03:26 PM
  #18
Yearling
You're welcome. To answer the question about tail flagging. It is common in Arabians but there are other breeds that do flag in certain situations or when excited. Both my paint mare and palomino QH do, not often but they do. One of my Belgian mares will also, so did her mother. The OP has a beautiful horse. I'd say paint is a possibility but she cannot be registered as such. As a paint she would be QH and with possibly TB influence through the QH. I have a quarter mare that is 68% TB. She's all stock horse until you gt to her face. My paint mare would qualify for foundation QH if I could double register her (which is possible in some cases) but most people think she is all TB because of her build. Both of my QH stallions qualify for the foundation registry - one is tall, long and lean, the other looks like a bulldog and is built like a tank. The little bit of TB in both of them comes through Impressive.
     
    06-23-2013, 09:06 PM
  #19
Foal
If the horse is of unmistakably stock horse origin I have no problems calling an unregistered horse of stock horse type a "paint". If it is not possible to tell, and it is hard to see in any of those picures (although I think I see a TB influence there) then I would just call her pinto and that is that... It is possible she is anywhere from a pinto TB to a spotted saddle horse, to a paint with more TB lines, who knows?

I do believe APHA still allows outcrossing to registered JC horses as does AQHA.
     
    06-23-2013, 09:11 PM
  #20
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If the horse is of unmistakably stock horse origin I have no problems calling an unregistered horse of stock horse type a "paint". If it is not possible to tell, and it is hard to see in any of those picures (although I think I see a TB influence there) then I would just call her pinto and that is that... It is possible she is anywhere from a pinto TB to a spotted saddle horse, to a paint with more TB lines, who knows?

I do believe APHA still allows outcrossing to registered JC horses as does AQHA.
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