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        12-08-2011, 06:13 PM
      #21
    Trained
    She posted it already: Mccues Flashy Warrior Paint
         
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        12-08-2011, 06:13 PM
      #22
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    Quote:
    Originally Posted by NdAppy    
    APHA horses are a breed. Saying they are a mix is just asinine. They have limited out crossing and have breeding requirements.

    Just FYI, the tobiano pattern has never been nor will it ever be in AQHA or JC horses. Tobiano's were one of the first types of color patterns that were accepted by the APHA.


    Harley - Your horse is registered as a Paint, so he is a Paint. Regardless of what may be way back in his breeding, his papers state him as belonging to the APHA. So that is what he is.
    Breed, maybe. Purebred, no. I think the same of Appendix Quarter Horses. And the AWS.
    You can't register a purebred Arabian that has TB lineage.
    That's just my opinion.
         
        12-08-2011, 06:14 PM
      #23
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    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Poseidon    
    She posted it already: Mccues Flashy Warrior Paint
    Thanks! Not sure how I missed it.
    OP, I'm guessing his dam is a QH, or QH/paint. Do you know her?
         
        12-08-2011, 06:21 PM
      #24
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    Quote:
    Originally Posted by WSArabians    
    Breed, maybe. Purebred, no. I think the same of Appendix Quarter Horses. And the AWS.
    You can't register a purebred Arabian that has TB lineage.
    That's just my opinion.
    That is because TBs and Arabians are two entirely different breeds. The QH breed was created with the heavy use of TBs, so integrating TBs isn't all that strange. AWS is a whole 'nother ordeal.
         
        12-08-2011, 06:24 PM
      #25
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    I do not know his dam but I have see pictures of his sire and they are look a likes, exept the eyes. I could ask his last owner about her and see if she knows anything. His 4th grandpa on moms side and he's TB and so are his parents. Ilooked more indepth into his history.
         
        12-08-2011, 06:39 PM
      #26
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    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Poseidon    
    That is because TBs and Arabians are two entirely different breeds. The QH breed was created with the heavy use of TBs, so integrating TBs isn't all that strange. AWS is a whole 'nother ordeal.
    THIS.

    Just becuase you do not agree with the breeding practices of a registry, does not make the APHA any less of a breed.
    Poseidon and soenjer55 like this.
         
        12-08-2011, 06:54 PM
      #27
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    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Poseidon    
    That is because TBs and Arabians are two entirely different breeds. The QH breed was created with the heavy use of TBs, so integrating TBs isn't all that strange. AWS is a whole 'nother ordeal.
    I didn't say it was strange. Or that it makes them any less of a horse.
    I just said I don't consider them purebred.
         
        12-08-2011, 07:36 PM
      #28
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    What about the Morabs you breed? I personally have no idea why Morabs are considered their own "breed".

    Almost every other breed in existence has outcrossings to other breeds (most notably TBs and Arabians) to improve themselves. By your standards, there are only a small handful of purebred breeds and everything else are mutts.
         
        12-08-2011, 08:25 PM
      #29
    Yearling
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by WSArabians    
    What registey is he with? That should help you out.

    IMO, Paint isn't really a breed - just a bunch of random lines slapped together to get colour.
    Well, paints aren't exactly random, they're specifically tb or quarter horse ancestry. At this time, they've been bred so long that the two are pretty much nicely mixed to create a breed (although I personally don't count a horse with a pure paint parent and a pure tb or quarter horse parent as a pure paint.), any other breed with color doesn't count. I can see where you're coming from, and you definitely have a point- I see SOOO many people with a 'pure paint' that has one parent that is full blooded quarter, making them only HALF, but the registry is actually more pure than a heck of a lot of other registries I see...
         
        12-08-2011, 08:29 PM
      #30
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    And no APHA horses are not completely QH or TB. Like I said before, tobiano has never, nor never will be, a pattern that is seen in TBs or QHs.
         

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