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post #11 of 58 Old 04-14-2012, 12:19 PM
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I see welsh and possibly some paint. I don't see how his head couldnt be the right shape for a welsh, either. Looks alot like some of the other horses on the internet conformation-wise.
The only reason I could see anyone saying his head does not look to be like a Welsh Cob is that they are used to Welsh Ponies that are more refined like an Arabians. Many Welsh Cobs (section D) have heads like that Stallion's.

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post #12 of 58 Old 04-14-2012, 01:28 PM
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this is purely unscientific of course, but his stockier neck, color and mane, and shorter stature make me want to say Fjord. that could be where you are seeing the draftiness in him.

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My first impression was Welsh. An Andalusian cross with it, is a possibility,many Andys have more Beroque look to them & could explain the heavier neck & less refined head{as many Andi's don't have the prettiest heads}
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Lusitano comes to mind. They are like the Andalusian but from Portugal and come in a wider range of colors. What's funny is when I Googled Lusitano this is the second photo that came up:

http://papodanjo.files.wordpress.com...pg?w=450&h=337

I really don't see draft, but hey, what do I know.
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He looks like a straight up Section D to me. The Welsh Cob breed does have some Andalusian in its background.
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Thanks guys, good to see that a lot of people are also seeing the Welsh D. I was hoping it wasn't just wishful thinking, I love the Cobs and have wanted one (or a partbred) for a very long time.

Yes I was thinking his head was the wrong shape for a Welsh D because the majority of local ones are a lot more refined in the face. But all through the neck and body he looks so cobby to me.

I seriously doubt Fjord, there are only like 50 in Australia and 2 in Western Aus. They are a very rare breed here.

He matured very late, I think he's actually still changing shape going on recent photos vs photos from around 10 months ago. He'd be 6 or 7, not exactly sure of his age.

I don't know his story, like I said he's not my horse. Just the sire of my filly. As far as I know he was kept entire because he's a nice colour and he has a beautiful temperament, and they saw quality in him when he was a baby. He's from a city that is very near an area with a large population of Australian Brumbies so he might be a Brumby, I've met a fair few that I thought were dead certs for Welsh Cobs and then I found out that they weren't!

The owners breed TBs mainly, for racing, so they are used to fine boned horses. To them, this stallion is really chunky. He is really successful in the show ring, that sash is for champion buckskin and he has a fair few champion sashes under his belt.

He can REALLY jump, all of 14.3 and he's free jumped 3'4" with next to no training. His form is just lovely. Honestly when he's jumping he looks more like a Cob than when he's not moving... I've seen a video, he's pretty impressive.

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My money would be on a pretty high percentage of Welsh D in there.

However, I have to wonder at the logic behind keeping him entire. Yes he is a relatively nice horse, but they have no idea of his breeding. If he doesn't pass on his colour his foals are unable to be registered. Seems a little irresponsible to me.

I know he is not yours, so no need to get up in arms about that. Just passing my opinion on the horse.
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Depends on what he's bred to HC. If he was bred to a Welsh, or an Arabian, the foals would be eligible for partbred registration.

Regardless, the stallion himself is nice, and the type he throws seems consistent. And quite nice. IMO that's the most important thing... bloodlines and registration are nice, of course, but they're not the be all and end all of everything. You know what I mean?

EDIT; that being said, if I put my filly in foal (obviously when she is older), it will be to something that I can then register the foal. A Welsh, or an Arab.. have to look into the rules of Warmblood rego as there are 3 or 4 Warmblood stallions I'm head over heels for, but at the moment I'm thinking if I put her in foal the most likely breed to really compliment her is Welsh D, because she seems to be maturing to a fairly similar type to her daddy.
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I absolutely know what you mean and you are right that registration is not the be all and end all. However, I am pretty firm in my belief that if you don't even know what your horse's breeding is, it doesn't need to be breeding itself.
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I guess I'm lucky that I know who my girl's parents are then because I feel the same, if you don't know at least the horse's direct parents you can't predict what it'll throw.

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