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post #21 of 58 Old 04-15-2012, 08:28 PM
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Originally Posted by blue eyed pony View Post
I guess I'm lucky that I know who my girl's parents are then because I feel the same, if you don't know at least the horse's direct parents you can't predict what it'll throw.
You may know who the parents are but don't know what breed they even are with certainty.
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I know the dam is a registered arab derivative, just don't know her name (arab derivative can mean anything but is most commonly TB, Warmblood, Australian Riding Pony or Welsh in addition to the Arab blood). I know the type of the sire and I know my girl is strongly looking like maturing a lot like him. I also know a few really nice Welsh Ds that would cross well with my girl if she does mature to look like her sire.

I may not know the exact breeding of the stallion, but he throws a very consistent type (I have seen several of his foals) and I know what type crosses best WITH that type.

A horse is most likely to throw back to its parents in its offspring, so if you know the parents of a horse you know what it's most likely to throw. It's quite often seen in Thoroughbreds, if you look at the best racehorses their parents might not be champions but their grandparents quite often are.

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That breed usually referred to as 'gorgeous'. In this horse's case, I'm not even curious as to what breeds he is, he's so nice... and that's rare, lol. You must have a very lovely horse from him!
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The buckskin filly in my icon is my girl by him, I don't have any recent photos (she was 10.5 months in that one, she's 16 months now) but she's filled out a lot, she was so refined at that show and she's a real little chunk now. I think she'll mature to look a lot like him.

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post #25 of 58 Old 04-17-2012, 10:04 AM
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I have tried to observe many horses... I would say he has Arabian, Andalusian, welsh, and i would also say a possibilty of Perchuron. I ride a Perchuron/ Thoroughbred Cross who is only 14.2 hands so even though he is small doesn't mean he couldn't have draft in him.... size doesn't always matter. Rode a Welsh pony only 13 hands who jumped over 4 foot jumps.

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I had a quick Google of Welsh Cobs and my girl's sire isn't quite the right body type to be purebred (his bum is not round enough) so there is a very very high probability that he does have something else. Especially with those REALLY Arab-y ears. I do love his hind, it's his best ass-et, but I think it comes from somewhere other than the Welsh blood that he almost certainly has. The arab mayyybe, but I think more likely if he has Andalusian in him that such a lovely hind and a level to uphill build would have come from that.

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post #27 of 58 Old 04-29-2012, 01:31 AM
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That stallion looks straight-up Welsh D to me.
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post #28 of 58 Old 04-29-2012, 01:38 AM
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Honestly, he looks like a welsh x hackney to me. The shape of his butt, his barrel and something about his legs screams hackney at me, and the head neck and shoulders scream cob. Could easily be some crumby in here too.

Not to be derogatory, but I'm surprised he has done so well in the show ring. His front and back half don't match at all!
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He is still fairly youngish I think which might explain the mismatched front and hind. He also hasn't done a lot of undersaddle work due to his age and stallion status according the the breeders' website. Structurally he's not too bad, just very solid through the neck and shoulders (possibly a stallion thing as many of them seem to be quite thick in the forehand). Do we even have hackneys in Aus? Can't be very many, especially here in WA.

My filly seems to have inherited his neck, can't say for sure about much else but I think she might mature a lot like him. Hopefully she's a bit better matched front to hind but if she's inherited any of his jumping talent I will be happy regardless of what she looks like.

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post #30 of 58 Old 04-30-2012, 09:36 PM
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Easiest thing to do would be do DNA test to see.

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