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    08-08-2009, 08:05 PM
  #1
Zab
Yearling
What colour? Dun? Silver? Both?

I wonder what my new icelandic yearlings color is..
The breed comes in any colour, so that's no help :P

The auktion paper said ''silver yellow'', I don't know how right they were concidering the circumstanses, but silver isn't unlikely (pretty common in the breed as far as I've seen) and as far as I know, dun is also a regular icelndic colour? So it's not impossible that they've mixed, right?

I read this:
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Her color is the result of a black base coat diluted by both a dun dilute gene, and a silver dapple dilute gene. *The silver dapple gene diluted the mane and tail to silver, but the dorsal stripe and other dun markings appear to remain relatively undiluted on this mare. The body has been diluted by both the silver dapple gene and the dun gene, causing a pale body coat.
Dun Central Station - Dun Plus Other Dilutions
The pictures is of silver and dun on a black base.. I wonder if they could come on a brown/dark base and if that could be Sólons colour?

Or is he just a light red dun?

Well.. see for yourselves :) What do you think?

He has a light, thin stripe down the back and some leg markings, but fairly light legs, and the center of the mane and tail are dark. It's not very visible on the tail tho since it has so much light/white on it.







I guess I get insecure about if its just a red dun because he's so light, and the dark in the mane and tail doesn't look red at all. (except the tip of the tail but I suspect that's bleached by..stuff) and then the silver-thing in the papers suggests that one of his parents were silver, or something. I dunno..

The both black-silver-duns they had pictures on looks like him except gray.. http://duncentralstation.com/DunOthe...y-sdgrulla.jpg this one lacks a lot of the dark in the mane.. http://duncentralstation.com/DunOthe...moke-KMSHA.jpg but this one has more of it and it's the same type of genes, so maybe Sólon is something in between? And then brown/chestnut/red/whatever brownish colour instead of black as a base?

Am I just making stuff extra difficult? Can he be just a light red dun or some other normal colour?
     
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    08-08-2009, 08:15 PM
  #2
Foal
Hmm...I've never seen a horse in that colour...he's very beautiful, by the way.

He's definitely some color of dun, but I don't know what to name that!
     
    08-08-2009, 08:22 PM
  #3
Super Moderator
I'm no help on colour but he's a pretty little guy. I love the multi-coloured mane and tail.
     
    08-08-2009, 08:23 PM
  #4
Yearling
How does this sound:

"Claybank dun - This is the dilute of the red dun. (chestnut + C+Ccr + Dd_). This dun ranges from pale straw to a yellow clay color, with darker legs. The primitive markings are golden or tan. The mane and tail are mostly cream or white, except where the dorsal stripe runs through. Due to this, claybank dun is known as palomino dun in Europe."

Taken from Horse Color Explained: A Breeder's Perspective. It's an Australian book... I'm not sure if the term "claybank" is used elsewhere.
     
    08-08-2009, 08:26 PM
  #5
Zab
Yearling
Thanks :)

Ponyboy: That sounds right! :)
     
    08-08-2009, 08:30 PM
  #6
Zab
Yearling
..but does that result in a blackish center of the tail and mane?
     
    08-08-2009, 08:37 PM
  #7
Showing
We call that a Buttermilk Dun (or Buckskin) as in this colt: http://www.equinenow.com/horse-ad-162167
     
    08-08-2009, 08:49 PM
  #8
Yearling
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Originally Posted by Zab    
..but does that result in a blackish center of the tail and mane?
Hmmm, not in the picture they have. Although, I used to ride a dilute dun Fjord horse and even though his primitive markings were very light the streak through his mane was still black.
     
    08-08-2009, 08:58 PM
  #9
Zab
Yearling
Iridehorses: hmm. Sólon has way more white in his mane and tail (which is why I expect the silver/cream gene) and after what I've learnt, buckskin and dun is completely different colours, genetically :)

Ponyboy; yeah.. but does that make the fjord palomino dun or just say it has a different colour?
     
    08-08-2009, 09:09 PM
  #10
Zab
Yearling
Chestnut + C+Ccr + Dd_
What does those letters stand for? I'm not very good at genetics when they're not spelled out clearly x) and could chestnut be replaced with brown or bay? That could explain the dark mane and tail since those colors ''saves'' certain parts of the horse from being anything else than black.. like the mane and tail.. or am I way wrong?
     

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