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    02-17-2013, 11:30 AM
In my neck of the woods, QH is king & every thing else is view as crap. I was raised to beleive that Arabs were crazy & worthless. When my trainer told me to get a little Arab mare out for my lesson one night, I almost had a panic attack. However, once I rode her, I realised she was one of the most wonderful horses I have ever had the pleasure to ride.
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    02-17-2013, 11:31 AM
My ultimate worse experience with a horse that I would condone as crazy happened to be a breeding stock paint. She was just out of this world. Beautiful mare but gee she was the proof that beauty doesnt always have brains. The only issues I have seen with arabs is when novice handlers or riders aquire them because they are such beautiful creatures and it take an arab all of 2 minutes to figure out they can walk all over someone if not handled properly. One lady I new was 48 yo just getting into horses learning all the parelli nonsense. She bought a 3 yo untrained paint. Started training her parelli. That was the rudest most annoying horse I have ever met. Then, someone decided they would give her an 11 yo green broke pure bred arab. Absolutely stunning horse. He was a level 8 parelli I believe but was another story undersaddle. She got this horse for free and I have never seen such a disaster. She couldnt handle him at all. She asked me for help one day to get him from the pasture to the stall. I went got him, brought him in and had no problems whatsoever. He was just as well mannered and respectful. He liked to fidget with his lead but that was it. She had done shown him too many times that she feared his eagerness and energetic behavior. That is what I LOVE about arabs. But, some people just can't deal with it. One of our TWH mares is OVER eager and can be very intimedating to someone that isnt use to it.
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    02-17-2013, 11:50 AM
I board my Arab at a mostly quarter horse barn, with a few TBs and I got the same kind of reactions when I brought him there.
"Wow, he's not like any Arab I've ever met before."
"He doesn't act like an Arab."
"He's too smart to be an Arab."
I've yet to meet an Arab that isn't smart; they just don't put up with people that aren't smart ;]
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    02-17-2013, 11:58 AM
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How silly to "hate a breed". Goodness there are good and bad horses in every single breed. Lots of the bad is due to stupid handlers.

I board at an Arabian ranch so I am surrounded by them. Yes, they are sensitive and a little spunky shall we say. But, all of them are well mannered and well trained. Even the stallion out there, Sada, when he is in his little paddock he will run at the fence, turn and kick it...blah blah blah. But if you fuss at him he instantly stops until you walk away and he does it again. But, on the wash rack or under saddle, he is always obedient. He was fussing at Biscuit on the wash rack a few months ago and I fussed at him and he instantly obeyed.

He used to scare the pants off of Sarge or Sarge thought he was crazy, one of the two. Sarge got out of his pasture one day after I had put Red up in a stall due to a health issue. He went looking for Red and encountered Sada. He and Sada must have had some conflict because after that, when Sada would see the little bay QH he would cross to the other side of his pen and stay there. LOL he was brought up one day and was thinking Sarge was pretty dang cute until he realized who he was. He shut up instantly and was quiet as could be.

Arabs are smart, full of life and spunky. Some of the ones out at the barn are lesson horses and you could put a child on them. The original old stallion, Amir, was a child's lesson horse. Not to many studs could be trusted with a child!

I have QH's but I ride with a variety of horses, QH, Paints, TW, Arabs, a Quarab, Rocky Mountains, a Morgan/Friesan cross. They all are wonderful horses.

Just ignore people with that attitude. It is the same as people saying QH are just cow horses, or just stupid push button horses. Or lazy or whatever the insult is. I ignore it. Biscuit is pretty dang special to me and so is Sarge.
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    02-17-2013, 12:31 PM
Originally Posted by QOS    
How silly to "hate a breed". Goodness there are good and bad horses in every single breed. Lots of the bad is due to stupid handlers.

Agreed! Well, I might go even one step further. All horses are good, some just have not been lucky enough to find the right owner to help them be confident and secure and well trained. There are breeds that I tend to enjoy more then others but often, it is due to their looks and their physical ability. Personality is very individual regardless of breed.

If you love your Arabian and your Morgan (as I know you do) then who cares what some random stranger thinks of them? I know it can be hard to own one of those breeds that others think are nuts (I have Saddlebreds) I think the best thing anyone can do is enjoy the horse that they love regardless of what others think. I don't really worry about changing people's minds anymore either. I think if one loves their horse, treats it well and enjoys it for how it is, others (with brains) will take note. Minds change when they see the good side of things, not when others tell them about the good side. Some people are too twisted to see it even if it is right in front of them. I don't worry about those types.
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    02-17-2013, 12:35 PM
Poor manners are poor manners, no matter what subject you are on. Enjoy your equine friends and don't give it another thought.
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    02-17-2013, 12:40 PM
Originally Posted by Faceman    
While Arabs and Morgans aren't Appys and don't have spots, but IMO they are among the better of the lesser breeds...

You sound like my sister.
    02-17-2013, 12:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Inga    
Agreed! Well, I might go even one step further. All horses are good, some just have not been lucky enough to find the right owner to help them be confident and secure and well trained.
How true!!!! My horse Red and Sarge have never know a day of bad treatment, hunger, illness or injury left untreated, in their lives. Their sweet attitudes reflect that good treatment and good training. I always say that Biscuit could have been a top notch horse had he received proper training and treatment in his early life. He is such a sweet horse it is hard to believe he was so roughly treated by a trainer that it made him head shy and scared to death of strangers. Not that he would hurt them...he was just scared and trembling. How sad. He also went hungry lots of times. Can't imagine my horses going hungry!

Treatment and training has so much to do with the "final product" and that can happen in any breed. Bad treatment or over spoiling by someone who doesn't know how to curb rude behavior and end up with a horse that is pushy and obnoxious is a sure way to have a horse end up on the truck to no return!
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    02-17-2013, 01:42 PM
The worst horses I've ridden were extremely intellegent. If I were to base them off of their breed, I wouldn't like any breed of horse.

Typically bad horses = smart ponies. They learned how to work the system better than their riders. This can happen regardless of breed.
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    02-17-2013, 02:07 PM
People just don't seem to take too well to being outsmarted by a horse, and more often than not the people who hate an entire breed because of a bad experience they had/saw someone have/ heard someone had are the ones that always get outsmarted by horses ;)
No arabian I have ever encountered has been the type to suffer a fool well. Not like other breeds. Especially the old cranky mares...
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