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    03-15-2013, 09:56 PM
  #51
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I like horses in the 12-15 hand range. Easier to tack. (But my favorite breeds are drafts 16h+. Go figure)
Than you'd be a Canadian horse fan :P Essentially, draft Morgans, mymare is 15.2 hands but bulldog-wide build - They're perfect! And equally easy keepers, she's obese on 6-8 flakes and ration balancer - seriously need to cut her down, but she's so cute how can I say no? XD
     
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    03-19-2013, 07:56 PM
  #52
Foal
What is so bad about Arabians and Morgans?

There is nothing wrong with them. I had the love of my life, my Polish Arab for 22 years. I had to put him down because of cancer 9 years ago. I still get teary eyed when I think of him. We did shows, trail rides, parades and were even invited to ride in the only Presidential Inaguration Parade that was cancelled, Ronald Regan's. I have had many horses since, then, grades, QH, TW and Mountain horses. I recently adopted to Eqyptian Arabs and could not be happier with them. They are sane, sound and incredibly friendly. At 63, I have found love again.
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    03-19-2013, 09:02 PM
  #53
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I also have to say I love Morgans I haven't had any 'special' ones in my life, but I think they're also among the brilliant. I personally love the more old-style Morgans, a little heavier body. I think they're magnificent.
I actually have a Canadian horse mare - who's a small breed of draft that eventually made Morgans and Saddlebreds and other similar breeds. :) I think she's the most perfect horse Ever!
You can kind of see the influence her breed had on Morgans:


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I love older style Morgans also!! My Morgan colt's dam is a 100% foundation bred and a full Lippett Morgan. Here are two pictures of her with my colt and one of her pregnant, and yes, I can totally see her resemblance to the Canadian horse.
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    03-19-2013, 09:07 PM
  #54
Yearling
Morgans and Arabians - oh what bliss...

My first "real" horse that was my own was a Morgan mare with a 6-week-old purebred filly at her side. We had friends and neighbors with Morgans. They were all gentle, intelligent, sensitive, and oh so surefooted. We had never heard that they were supposed to be "hot". We didn't know any better. That mare of mine was a good, calm, solid horse for a kid. Her foal, however, was the love of my life. Easy to train, never spooked - not once, loaded the first time, crossed bridges the first time - incredibly trusting. Best horse I've ever had or ridden. I never heard how "hot" Morgans are until a couple years ago. I never recognized any of the stereotypical Morgan behaviors in any of my Morgans.

Then I had an Arabian a couple years ago. Same thing. He was so calm, trusting, and smart. He certainly had an alertness about him. He liked having his head high and paying attention, but none of the stupid behaviors I've since heard about Arabians. My "daily rider" is a 1/2 Arabian. The other is pure Morgan. Both are the most mentally solid horses around.

Could it be that there are a few "crazy" Arabs around, and they just ruin the reputation of the rest? The're different, they think differently, their head and body is shaped differently. Maybe that just makes them easy to pick on?
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    03-19-2013, 09:08 PM
  #55
Weanling
The bad thing about Arabians, Morgans, Saddlebreds and etc is the people making those assumptions!

Arabians need a special owner/handler who understands THE ARABIANS intelligence and same with the Saddlebred.

Morgans IMO tend to be more level headed, willing, understanding, and forgiving than most.
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    03-20-2013, 04:25 AM
  #56
Trained
I have a TB and an Anglo Arab. I get more of the "is it nuts?" with the TB to be honest! [and she is a bit nutty, my god can she react FAST to things... but I have no trouble with her]

The Anglo is just SOOOOO quiet, the one time I took him to an eventing show he fell asleep in the XC start box!! Then when I lifted my weight and shortened my reins in preparation to move off he started jigging around and fidgeting because he knew it was time to go. He is SO smart, he has an on and off switch. He can be your classic plodder [I have been asked if he's a QH more times than I can count - my response is always a laugh and "I wish!", I love the breed] or he can be REALLY strong and fidgety, it's a real test of my abilities and he's certainly not an easy ride but he's incredibly quiet. Spook him and he reacts big but gets over it just as quickly.

My TB hangs onto her anxiety. I'm actually MORE relaxed on/around her than I am with Monty, but the other day, I was taking her for a casual walking trail ride with my mother, and my dog got out and followed us. Scared poor Magic, who chucked in this MASSIVE buck [or at least I'm told it was huge, didn't feel like much to me??] and kicked out backwards, then was on her toes for the whole rest of the ride. Granted the ride WAS fairly short but still...

I have one that breaks stereotype [extremely smart horse, but very quiet and easygoing unless you actually want his energy levels to be up], and one that is so true to stereotype it's not even funny. Magic certainly isn't for the faint-hearted! Neither is Monty, but that's not because he's hot or nutty... he's just so bipolar you never really know until you get on his back if he's going to behave himself or not.
     
    03-20-2013, 09:00 AM
  #57
Weanling
There are some benefits to having ultra sensitive horses. For instance, my Arab would never, ever touch a fence or anything that resembles one just in case it might shock her. When her fence was torn down by a colicking horse, the barn owner had no worries. She stuck some sticks in the ground and tied up baling twine to look like hot wire and my mare was good for a few days until they had time to fix the fence.

Another time I was free lunging both my Arabs and sent them galloping toward the end of the outdoor arena, which has a dressage type fence lower than a horse's knees. The barn owner saw me and nearly had a heart attack, but both horses screeched to a halt and did not go over the fence they could simply step over.

On the other hand, my friend's QH is so desensitized that she has torn down multiple fences and is living in a stall right now while they figure out what will keep her contained.

There are obviously some cons to having ultra sensitive horses too. The barn owner told me my other mare had not eaten her grain in two days. She seemed bright-eyed, healthy and happy to me. Then I remembered that I'd thrown out her old, scuzzy feed pan and bought a nice, shiny new one. I had to feed her out of it by hand a couple of times until she figured out that it was OK to eat out of.
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    03-20-2013, 10:32 AM
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Morgans IMO tend to be more level headed, willing, understanding, and forgiving than most.
As much as I love both breeds uniquely, Arabians are a handful, you're right they need an owner who's sensitive to their sensitivities.
The reason I think the same assumptions are being made about Morgans is because, honestly, people have been breeding Morgans to be more and more like Arabians, mixing in Arabian blood too. It really frustrated me that that's happening. We have Arabians, they're wonderful, but I want Morgans too - not blending them into one vague moosh of a breed varying in temperment from the calm, intelligent, dependable Morgan to the high-strung brilliance of Arabians.
I wouldn't mind so much mixing the breeds so long as we're careful not to loose the foundations of both breeds. It's getting harder and harder in my area to find a decent foundation Morgan.
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    03-20-2013, 12:09 PM
  #59
Green Broke
People dislike/hate/mock what they don't take the time to understand.thus racism, etc.

I love all horses. I understand why people like all different types of horses, but I have my preferences. I don't love riding drafts or typically stockhorses. I'm a little high energy myself, so I like a horse that has the same energy type as me. I like a horse that responds to my comands as soon as I think them, can turn on a time, jump whatever I point them at, and cover some serious distance if I need it. The farrari of the horse world, which is why I feel I undertand arabs so well. I also have a personality that drives me to constantly ask "why?" I'm sure I drove my parents insane. I like my horse to be the same, I want to constantly interact with my mount, and have a relationship with them. I want my mind engaged in things other than the rest of my life.

Many people want a very quiet, non sensitive mount, and for those people an arab(or many morgans, saddlebreds, ottbs, etc) would drive them crazy.

I get very bored on the push button, quiet types. To each their own.
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    03-26-2013, 04:21 PM
  #60
Foal
I LOVE Morgans and will never be without one! I also own a National Show Horse. Love them to pieces!!!!!
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