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post #11 of 16 Old 04-09-2011, 06:37 PM
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Great post Kevin! That is SO true!

On Tennessee Walkers being "hot." I swear from my (albiet limited) personal experience that basically all gaited horses I have ever met are "hot." But when I asked the same question in the gaited breeds section of the forum they swore that was not true!

I have a Missouri Fox Trotter and love her to death, but she is the most "Arabian" non-Arabian I have ever met! Very sensitive, very excitable, very sweet, very kind, and did I mention she is sensitive and excitable!? I also know other people with Walkers and Fox Trotters and their horses are pretty much the same. I am trying to rack my brain for any gaited horses I have met that aren't bouncing off the walls. Hmmm, I can't think of any at the moment. But it could be that they keep the calm ones in their home states and ship the nervous ones out West, lol!

Actually, my first horse was an a-typical, calm, lazy Arabian.

I always heard good things about QH's but never was that impressed until I met a lady with really GOOD Quarter Horses. Those horses ARE what Quarter Horses are always touted to be- calm, kind, laid back, anyone can ride types of horses. But they are also well bred, well trained, high end QH's. I have found the ones at the lower end of the market to be a crap shoot in temperment and trust worthiness, just as with every other breed. You may get a good horse cheap, or you may be buying someone else's problem horse.

So yes, I think Kevinshorses is right-on! Get a good, older horse that is beginner safe. Don't worry too much about breed, color, etc.
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To echo some others: lessons. I bought horses at 50 and started riding on my own, and have the bruises and aches to prove it. I got them for my wife & daughter, and then ended up doing about 80% of the riding - but look at some cash issues:

Lessons here run around $35/hour private, so $350/month for 10 lessons/month. That is about what I think people spend boarding a horse. The advantages are that you not only learn riding faster, but can try different styles without (for example) buying English saddles and later deciding you don't want to ride English. I've got two saddles I need to get around to selling at a loss...

You can ride different horses, and since each horse is different, you will get better faster. And when you do go to buy, you will know more about what to look for...horse sellers are notorious for skimping on the truth.

Remember, buying horses is cheap. Buying all the rest - corral panels, sheds, fencing, land, trailers, feed, vet bills, shoeing/trimming - those are what cost big money. And if you buy a spooky horse (see Mia in my horses), then you may end up hiring a trainer to help you with her spookiness - which could be caused in part by bad habits you built up riding defensively.

Around here, a year's worth of weekly lessons would run $1750, and then you might be prepared to make a smart buy. Horses are like icebergs - the part you see is about 10% of the cost. I suggest following my advice instead of my example...the advice cost me plenty, but is free for you!
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Sooo much great advice here!! I also leased before I bought...gives you a great chance to learn how to care for a horse without the responsibility of actually owning.
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post #14 of 16 Old 04-10-2011, 09:24 AM
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To echo some others: lessons. I bought horses at 50 and started riding on my own, and have the bruises and aches to prove it. I got them for my wife & daughter, and then ended up doing about 80% of the riding - but look at some cash issues:

Lessons here run around $35/hour private, so $350/month for 10 lessons/month. That is about what I think people spend boarding a horse. The advantages are that you not only learn riding faster, but can try different styles without (for example) buying English saddles and later deciding you don't want to ride English. I've got two saddles I need to get around to selling at a loss...

You can ride different horses, and since each horse is different, you will get better faster. And when you do go to buy, you will know more about what to look for...horse sellers are notorious for skimping on the truth.

Remember, buying horses is cheap. Buying all the rest - corral panels, sheds, fencing, land, trailers, feed, vet bills, shoeing/trimming - those are what cost big money. And if you buy a spooky horse (see Mia in my horses), then you may end up hiring a trainer to help you with her spookiness - which could be caused in part by bad habits you built up riding defensively.

Around here, a year's worth of weekly lessons would run $1750, and then you might be prepared to make a smart buy. Horses are like icebergs - the part you see is about 10% of the cost. I suggest following my advice instead of my example...the advice cost me plenty, but is free for you!
This is so true! The 1500. I spent on my first horse would have been way better used in lessons. I ended up having to pay way more in bruises, anger, sadness, fear and a pricey hospital bill. I sold the horse for way less than I bought her for, and had to pay for lessons anyways.
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I've met very calm and laid back TWHs and some hot ones. I met some extremely hot QHs but then there are a lot of calm ones. In fact the very first horse I ever rode on when I was little was an arabian mare. I was even bareback on her. She was calm as could be and absolute doll.

Don't worry about breed other than if you know there is a specific type of discipline you want to do. You mentioned barrels - well then that may start you off in QHs since that is what the majority of the barrel racers are. Then again I've seen haflingers run barrels at well at low levels and do fine.

I like what Kevin said - look for an older been there done that horse and a good barn where you can bored and learn the ropes and take lessons. A 15 year old horse could easily still have 10 years or more of riding time left on them if they had been taken care of when they were younger.

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It is always best to judge a horse indivually, rather than by it's breed. Personality is affected a lot more by their early experiences and the way they are handled, rather than their breeding, and although it is a contributing factor you can't predict what a horse will be like just by looking at it's breed.

For example, my Knabstrupper is a very sharp, spooky horse, and my Thoroughbred is as chilled as you can get. If I were to judge them by their breed, they should be the other way around!

There are certain breeds I would avoid if I was in your situation, namely the Welshies (all sections), Warmbloods and Arabs, although I have met very calm horses of all these breeds, and wouldn't rule them out completely.

You would be best going for a horse in it's teens, that has been out and seen the world, and so isn't phased by new things. Don't expect to find one of these very cheap, safety is worth a lot when it comes to horses, so maybe you could loan or share a horse until you have more experience? Good luck in your search!
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