what's the difference between a buckskin and a dun?

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    01-15-2009, 09:35 PM
what's the difference between a buckskin and a dun?

What is the difference between a buckskin and a dun? I am just curious. They seem very similar in colour.

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    01-15-2009, 09:44 PM
Green Broke
Duns have primitive markings. Such as a dorsal stripe or zebra stripes
    01-15-2009, 10:54 PM
The difference is a genetic one.

A dun isn't really a color, but more of amplifier (?). The horse will have a base color, bay (bay dun; this one looks like a buckskin), chestnut (red dun), black (grullo) even buckskin (dunskin) and palomino (dunalino), but will also be affected by the dun gene, so it will show certain characteristics (dorsal stripe, primitive markings)

A buckskin is simply a single dilute bay (carried one creme gene). Some will have "frosting" as well. Genetically they are EEAACrcr, EeAACrcr, EEAaCrcr.
    01-16-2009, 07:06 PM
OK, that makes sense. Thank you both for your helpful information!
    01-16-2009, 07:52 PM
Ooh, that's really interesting! Cheers, I've learned something today :3

Haha, I remember when I thought horse colours were so simple ... and then I discovered the internet ...
    01-16-2009, 07:59 PM
Green Broke
Lol so is Sandie a buckskin or dun?? I was told buckskin, but she does have a hint of a dorsal stripe (very faded) going down her back...you can sorta kinda see it here:

    01-16-2009, 08:27 PM
Green Broke
And unless it's dirt, she looks like she has some of the striping up her legs??

Dunskin maybE?
    01-16-2009, 08:31 PM
Green Broke
Yes she definitely has dark legs...it's strange, she posesses some traits from BOTH dun and buckskin it seems (just read about them both on another website), so she may be "dunskin"! She has the dark legs, the frosting in her tail (looks like highlights, it's cute!), dark tipped ears, and a faded (but there) dorsal stripe -- all of which are "primitive markings" that would point to Dun. But then she dapples out in the summer I'm told (and I can see dappling in certain light now that she's shedding her winter coat) and that's not characteristic of duns, it's more buckskin...and she's lighter than most duns I've seen, looks more like a buckskin. Hmmmm...I may never know...either way, she's adorable!

Here, you can see her legs better in this one:
    01-16-2009, 08:34 PM
Green Broke
So I searched for "dunskin" online and here's the first photo I found...sure looks like her color!

    01-16-2009, 08:38 PM
Green Broke
Well now the internet is confusing me again...I found this passage on the following website (this one makes it sound like she is a buckskin - she does have a white face mask!): http://www.horsecolor.us/dilutions/dun/index.html

A clarification: dun or buckskin?
Buckskin is not just another name for dun, although the term 'dun' was used for buckskins for many years (and still is, in some breeds). To see what a buckskin is, see the pages about the cream modifier, because cream acting on a bay base makes a buckskin.

A buckskin horse will have the same black points as a bay, but the body color will be diluted by the cream gene to a yellowish color of varying intensities. Most common is a clear gold, but the addition of the 'sooty' pattern may cause dorsal shading, strong dappling, blotchiness at the top of the legs, and an upper face mask. Sometimes these sooty characteristics are mistaken for dun, but if you are attentive, you can discern the difference.

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