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post #11 of 103 Old 09-15-2011, 08:55 PM
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I don't get the feel from this board that we dislike mustangs, I think many of us don't like how the wild mustangs are being used and cared for by our government.
I don't like how American citizens are being used & cared for by your government, never mind the wild nags!
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post #12 of 103 Old 09-15-2011, 09:17 PM
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I like mustangs just as much as I like any grade horse.

There's some good ones, there's some bad ones.
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The original question is very interesting, because I had thought that the majority of us (here and otherwise) love the Mustang. It's a very romantic idea, the whole "wild" horse taming thing, and I rarely ever hear of someone saying they dislike them. I have one, looking at another and Mustangs, like any other horse breed are all different.

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post #14 of 103 Old 09-15-2011, 11:28 PM
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You are the second or third person to say Mustangs are feral, not wild. Not trying to be a wise guy here, but do you know what feral is? If not, it is wild.

Wild is wild, whether never domesticated or feral. Feral simply refers to animals descended from animals that were domesticated.

I also respectfully disagree that they "do better when reunited with the species that initially brought them here". On what do you base that? While it is true that parasite control lengthens the natural lifespan of all horses, the same could be said of any grazing animal. Personally, I am of the opinion that Mustangs, as with all wild animals, are most content being left alone.

That doesn't mean I oppose capturing and taming Mustangs, or oppose people that own them. But it is, in my opinion, rather far fetched to say an animal is better off confined and used as a beast of burden than running wild to pursue its instincts, which is what brings it contentment...
There is a difference between a wild animal and a feral one (ie, one that is descended from domesticated animals). Perhaps you would prefer that I use a different word, but the fact is that American mustangs are Man's creation gone untended. We have tampered with their conformation, their temperament, etc. The majority of mustangs can be returned to a domestic lifestyle with relatively little difficulty, and they can be trusted as partners to their humans. If you compare this to something wild like a zebra raised in captivity, it is nigh on impossible to train them to ride or even to behave in a way that is predictable. They do not develop a reliable connection with the humans working with them and handling them.

I believe that it is far fetched to believe that horses these days are treated as "beasts of burden". They have become a hobby, a pet for the vast majority of people who own them. Special care is taken for grooming, farrier work, nutrition, medical care, etc.

Everyone is entitled to their own opinions. I don't think that all of the mustangs should be rounded up and sold off... but they have no more "right" to the American land than settlers who drove out Native Americans. Just as we competed with and drove out the native peoples of this country, mustangs compete with and drive out the native species of this country. It is important to bear this in mind.
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You are the second or third person to say Mustangs are feral, not wild. Not trying to be a wise guy here, but do you know what feral is? If not, it is wild.

Wild is wild, whether never domesticated or feral. Feral simply refers to animals descended from animals that were domesticated.
Well, wild is wild, and feral is feral. Yes, I know the difference and so do many other people. I'm not sure you understand what wild is. A wild animal is NOT domesticated. A feral animal can retrun to being domesticated. True of pigs, goats, horses, etc..... It's not a very long leap from domesticated to feral back to domesticated. Otherwise the Mustang would be far more difficult to return to domestication.

The Mustang is a case of natures own breeding program working with the domestic horses humans provide.
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The only true wild horse is the Przewalski. All others are descendants from once domesticated horses.

Mustangs are feral, and there is a big difference between wild and feral. If you saw a cat somewhere that didn't have an owner would you assume it was wild? Of course not. It's just feral. Same with the mustangs.
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post #17 of 103 Old 09-18-2011, 12:33 AM
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Reasons to not like mustangs:

Ugly
dumb
smutts - not pure bred
can't register them for showing
slow runners

I'm sure I will have more later, but thats a start
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That is rude, Makoda. Really, no better than the racial slurs frequently used against African American or Jewish individuals, etc. It is never appropriate to apply such terms so broadly.

Not to mention, there's already a word for a mixed breed animal... it's mutt. I don't know where you got the 's' from.
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Reasons to not like mustangs:

Ugly
dumb
smutts - not pure bred
can't register them for showing
slow runners

I'm sure I will have more later, but thats a start
The mustang is recognized as a breed. And although it stems from many different breeds, so do most other breeds. To get a real pure bred, perfect line you'd have to look into getting something such as an Arab. To say they are ugly and dumb is stereotypical and not correct. You're comment is extremely biased.
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post #20 of 103 Old 09-18-2011, 02:39 AM
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Reasons to not like mustangs:

smutts - not pure bred
can't register them for showing
slow runners

I'm sure I will have more later, but thats a start
Always love this "pure bred" concept people seem to have. Started dealing with breeding 40 years ago. Hate to disappoint all those people out there who believe in such things, but there are no "pure bred" domestic animals. They all came from the mixing of other domestic animals. At least as far back as recorded history. I'm sure somewhere in the past there might have been a "pure breed" of equine, but it was before our recorded history. We are able to, after enough generations, manage to get a reasonably consistent outcome from animals with the same breeding background. We then set standards, give them name and call them a breed. There's nothing "pure" about it.

In point of fact, the Mustang is a case of natures selective breeding. The strong survive. Unlike human controlled breeding where we can have the weak survive if they have some trait we want.

As for your other opinions of the Mustang, well, you're allowed to have an opinion, but I suggest you not promote any particular breed. There is always something that any breed can be found defective in. Espeicially with something so subjective as how a breed looks.
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