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post #21 of 33 Old 05-19-2010, 10:51 PM Thread Starter
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Yeah, I know they register them... What I meant was 'why don't they register them under the correct color?'

Registering a smoky cream as a perlino is just weird. I mean... say you bred two smoky blacks (who were both homozygous for black) and out pops a smoky cream baby. Even though he's genetically black and it's impossible for him to have any other base coat, he's going to be registered as having a bay base coat? That's not right...
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AQHA has done away w/ their white rule, and the only other breed they let in is TB, and the horse is appendix depending on how much TB it has.

I'm not fast enough again!
Sorry, I know that this rule isn't in effect anymore, especially now with Sabino Quarter Horses.
Maybe it's because I raise horses that are serious about their backgrounds (ex. The DNA testing before foal application is approved (not to say that there wasn't false papers put in BEFORE this rule came into effect)) and nothing but PUREBREDS can be registered.
I will admit, AQHA isn't nearly as bad as APHA.
How can horse with QH, Paint, and TB on it's papers get registered a purbered Paint? IMO - APHA is just a mutt registry, really.

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It is like registering a gray. I personally do not think they should register any horse as gray. They should be registered by their bass color and in the description add gray. Back in the day Duns use to have Dorsal strip as a marking on their papers. Even if they where resisted as a dun or red dun.

If you really want all the info on the registration papers and have the DNA test to prove it AQHA will add that to the description of the horse. Not sure I would bother with it personally. I think people put way too much emphasis on color.

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Ouch, as a Paint person that hurts!

I agree about the gray thing, this thread was sort of making me think about that to. I love color genetics and find them very facinating, but I agree that to much emphasis is put on color. For a non breeding horse it can be interesting to know what's hiding in there, and if you are breeding it can be fun to try and predict the foals color, BUT when thinking about breeding if you couldn't see yourself breeding that same horse in bay or sorrel, that horse shouldn't be bred!

That said there is nothing wrong w/ liking color, and being currious!
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I agree that knowing is nice. I just really hate it when you see posts in the breeding section that the only thing they are interested in is what color the foal will be. To me that is not at all important. You get what you get so breed for something that is more important and then if you get color it is like the sprinkles on the icing on the cake.

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I agree!
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I agree that knowing is nice. I just really hate it when you see posts in the breeding section that the only thing they are interested in is what color the foal will be. To me that is not at all important. You get what you get so breed for something that is more important and then if you get color it is like the sprinkles on the icing on the cake.
I agree, a good horse is a good horse. That's all I care about.
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Ouch, as a Paint person that hurts!
Sorry. If it makes you feel any better, I've the same opinion of all Warmblood registeries.
BUT... It is just my opinion. And I'm not saying that Paints are bad horses, I just don't think that they are really a true breed. When I see an APHA registered horse that's got QH and TB as well as Paint - Well, that's just a crossbred horse, papers or not. I don't really get how that could be considered a purebred.

I'm not a Paint person myself. I've never liked them as a breed, don't ever see myself actually liking them. I've trained several nice minded Paints that turned into really nice horses. I've trained some pretty stupid ones. Trained some really nice Quarter Horses and Arabians, met some pretty stupid ones too. IMO - a good horse has a good head on it's shoulders, regardless of pedigree or colour or breed even.

Breeding Arabians I hear it all the time about those "crazy psycho horses" that I don't really care if people don't like "my" breed or not, so I'm not trying to offend you or anyone else who breed Paints, because what works for me might not work for you, and vice versa. And that's okay.
I just don't really understand APHA and breeding purebred Paints when there's three different breeds half the time on the horses papers.

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I do not breed them, but they are my breed, and I do consider them a breed. They are, as far as I'm concerned, spotted QH, so therefore I don't have a problem w/ them allowing those crosses, I think it would bother me more for them to want to be a completely separate breed, but still have the same standard as QH. Now if they allowed crosses to arabs and gaited breeds, etc. then I'd agree, then they'd just be pintos.
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It is like registering a gray. I personally do not think they should register any horse as gray. They should be registered by their bass color and in the description add gray. Back in the day Duns use to have Dorsal strip as a marking on their papers. Even if they where resisted as a dun or red dun.
I agree - that one annoys me too.
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