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  • Gypsy vanner paso fino mix
  • Difference between draft horse breeds like riding a dragon

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    12-12-2012, 01:55 AM
  #101
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Lol she is pretty cute, reminds me of a Dachshund ;)
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    12-13-2012, 12:09 AM
  #102
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Originally Posted by horsietori    
What is his other breed in him? He's beautiful!!! It just depends on what other breed a Friesian is mixed with I think. Personally I LOVE Appy and Friesian crosses, as long as they have loud coloring. Most people mix opposite breeds together and get something weird. Like a Paso Fino and Quarter Horse. They can turn out great (my friend has one right now who is pretty) and I've also met one that had horrible conformation and didn't know how to trot or gait. I'm all for refining bigger boned horses down such as mixing Thoroghbred and Percheron to create something that is pretty good at dressage(not always). My PMU mare is Thoroughbred, Percheron, and Quarter Horse. Great for dressage and also sturdy for trail and whatever else I throw at her (I've even placed 2nd twice in reining with her). One great mix is a Gypsy Vanner and Haflinger-but again, they are both draft type horses. Breeding opposites is a risky business. Sometimes you get good ones, other times you get weird ones.
Thanks! I think he's awesome but of course, I'm prejudiced in his favor. He was born and raised here. His mother was a National Show Horse, she was 3/4 Saddlebred and 1/4 Arabian. Her dad was RA Hot Every Nite and she was a pretty nice mare. And his dad was a Friesian, had a high rating at his Keuring. Dragon was actually from an accidental breeding between the two, but both horses were great examples of their breeds. Perhaps you just have to start with good quality stock?

Here's his pedigree http://www.allbreedpedigree.com/distant+winds+dragon
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    12-13-2012, 04:51 PM
  #103
Trained
I agree with whoever said that it isn't necessarily the breeds crossed, it's the individuals. My percheron/paint has great conformation and an amazing temperament. His half-sister is the complete opposite, but from the same sire.
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    12-13-2012, 05:02 PM
  #104
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Are you sure that the grey 'weenie-horse' isn't just a dwarf? She looks almost EXACTLY like our severely dwarfed miniature horse gelding, Little Feather. I took a double take when I saw her. Only difference in their build is that he's cow hocked to the point that he had to have surgery as a foal to be able to walk, and he's cremello, not grey.

     
    12-15-2012, 05:07 AM
  #105
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Originally Posted by dbarabians    
All modern light horse breeds carry the blood of the arabian.
That is not correct. Peruvians have no Arab blood in them.
     
    12-15-2012, 09:48 AM
  #106
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Peruvians, andulusions, and even mustangs are directly related to the Barb and the Arabian that was brought into Spain after the Muslims conquered Spain and ruled it for several hundred years.
So yes Peruvians as well as paso finos DO have arab blood in their ancestory. That is a historical fact. The Spainish even brought arabs over in ships to the new world. Shalom
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    12-15-2012, 09:59 AM
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Personally I think two of the worst crosses is a TWH x Gypsy Vanner and a Paso Fino x QH... The Paso/QH cross had horrible conformation but good disposition. The horse had no idea how to gait or trot... AQHA Girl can attest to that because she knew the horse. The Walker/Vanner is a stud who should have been gelding asap... Worst conformation I have ever seen-which is saying a lot. I just don't see how someone could cross a lanky gaited horse with something beefy and coarse and drafty... Gaited horses and draft type horses/ponies do NOT EVER MIX..... EVER!!!!! They turn out deformedish looking and IMO are only usable for trail riding and possibly driving depending on the build...
I own one of these draft cross something or others....and I am not offended by these descriptions. While she is only something a mother could probably love to some, you can't beat her personality, disposition and is the perfect beefy size for me. To start her under saddle consisted of putting the saddle on, getting on her back and ride off without the dramatics. HOWEVER, I have been going through the mystery of her hind end since I got her and it seems she can't figure out what she is or what to do with her legs....crossing between trotting and possibly wanting to gait etc. So, yes, she is a mess....but all I want is a trail horse and a horse to tolerate what I throw her way and that she is. I wouldn't trade her for any other horse. BUT, people, PLEASE stop backyard breeding some of these rediculous crosses that may not be as lucky to find homes due to their limitations!
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    12-15-2012, 05:28 PM
  #108
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Originally Posted by Oldhorselady    
BUT, people, PLEASE stop backyard breeding some of these rediculous crosses that may not be as lucky to find homes due to their limitations!
Don't want to get way too off topic...But the reason why slaughter exist is because of back-yard breeders. That and a good chunk of the Racing Industry's over breeding of horses and injured horses...Such Shame.
     
    12-15-2012, 07:21 PM
  #109
Foal
Sorry, wrong again

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Originally Posted by dbarabians    
Peruvians, andulusions, and even mustangs are directly related to the Barb and the Arabian that was brought into Spain after the Muslims conquered Spain and ruled it for several hundred years.
So yes Peruvians as well as paso finos DO have arab blood in their ancestory. That is a historical fact. The Spainish even brought arabs over in ships to the new world. Shalom
Again, Peruvians do NOT have Arab blood. Doesn't matter if the Spanish brought other breeds including Arabs, over in subsequent shipments. Peruvians are descended from BARBS. The Barb Horse is *not* an Arab.

"It is well documented that the Spanish Conquistadors brought with them both Hacks (amblers) and Chargers (trotters) of the same breed to the New World, as recorded in the Archives of the Indios, the Spanish Horse was (and still is) a breed consisting of Galician/Asturian (Celtic) horses of the North, Sorraia horses, and Barb horses from Morocco."

I suggest you read this article, "The History of the Peruvian Horse" which was written by Adele von Rüst McCormick, PhD. The Drs. McCormick did extensive research in Spain regarding the History of the Peruvian Horse:
Hacienda Tres Aquilas, LTD ~ Paso History

FYI - there is no Arab blood in the Icelandic Horse either.
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    12-16-2012, 02:59 PM
  #110
Weanling
This one was definitely a strange cross...a TWH/Mustang cross. She was ranked in the top 10 jumper ponies in the US. Definitely an awesome little mare.
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