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post #1 of 22 Old 12-06-2010, 01:54 AM Thread Starter
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Would it be incorrect to call a TB a paint?

This is totally not an important question, but would it be incorrect to call a pure breed TB a paint if they were dual registered? I guess it wouldn't be incorrect, but I don't know, would it be more correct to say the horse is a TB, but also registered as a paint? I guess the same thing goes for horses dual registered with the AQHA and the APHA.

This doesn't really matter at all, I'm just curious to how you would handle the terminology?
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It would be a pinto, not a Paint. A Paint is a breed. Pinto is a colour pattern. A TB wouldn't be purebred if it were registered with the APHA. I'm assuming it could probably be registered as a pinto somewhere, but it wouldn't be with the APHA.
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It would be a pinto, not a Paint. A Paint is a breed. Pinto is a colour pattern. A TB wouldn't be purebred if it were registered with the APHA. I'm assuming it could probably be registered as a pinto somewhere, but it wouldn't be with the APHA.
No, I'm talking about a dual registered Jockey Club/APHA horse.
Like, for instance, True Color Farm's Puchi Trap.
http://www.angelfire.com/on3/TrueColoursFarm/mares.html
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You could PM TrueColours and ask how she's registered.
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Just as AQHA horses can have a TB in their background and still be registered with the AQHA so can an APHA. To be registered with the APHA the parentage can be APHA AQHA or TB.

The reason this horse is APHA registered is that it has met the requirements to be registered with the APHA.

This if from the APHA site.
To be eligible for registry, a Paint's sire and dam must be registered with the American Paint Horse Association, the American Quarter Horse Association, or the Jockey Club (Thoroughbreds). At least one parent must be a registered American Paint Horse.
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It would be a pinto, not a Paint. A Paint is a breed. Pinto is a colour pattern. A TB wouldn't be purebred if it were registered with the APHA. I'm assuming it could probably be registered as a pinto somewhere, but it wouldn't be with the APHA.
Just as a registered quarter horse can have a parent that is TB so can the APHA registered horse. An APHA horse can also have a qh and still be registered as a paint.
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Aren't they called a "Colored TB"? Just like how WB's are coming out colored as well, aren't they called "Colored WB"?

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This if from the APHA site.
To be eligible for registry, a Paint's sire and dam must be registered with the American Paint Horse Association, the American Quarter Horse Association, or the Jockey Club (Thoroughbreds). At least one parent must be a registered American Paint Horse.
Bolding mine.

Which leads to the same question the OP asked I think. If it must have one parent that is a registered Paint then it can not be a registered TB because the jockey club does not allow you to register cross breeds.
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It would be a pinto, not a Paint. A Paint is a breed. Pinto is a colour pattern. A TB wouldn't be purebred if it were registered with the APHA. I'm assuming it could probably be registered as a pinto somewhere, but it wouldn't be with the APHA.
Actually this is not true. Paint & Pinto are both breeds now & have registries.
A Paint is a horse of either QH or TB breeding NOTHING else, which means yes, a TB can be a registered paint so long as it displays the correct markings or its parents did.
A Pinto is a white&color patterned horse that is of any breeding but purebred QH or TB. A mix would be called a pinto because the paint breeding standard is so restricted, as well as any drafts, warmbloods, arabs & ponies, etc.
There are pattern variations, but these are classified as Tobiano, Overo & Tovero.

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From the PtHA website
American Paint horses are limited to registered bloodlines of Paint, American Quarter Horse and Thoroughbred horses, whereas the Pinto can be from an array of bloodlines including the Arabian, American Saddlebred, American Miniature Horse, Tennessee Walking Horse and American Shetland Pony to name a few. The PtHA does not accept Appaloosa, Draft or Mule breedings and/or characteristics.
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