Originally Posted by Jr_lover
I have to agree with tranquilo honestly stating all this about race horses is wrong. They pretty much did selective breeding to do all this so that the horses can take it and run that fast. Just like with racing dogs selective breeding of course. You wouldn't see a wolf running like greyhounds now would you? Of course not...
Also I don't think I know anyone that trains their horse at 5 years old
that's just strange. Most normal people start their horses at 2 or 3.
Also the reason you might think racing is so bad is just because of the press just like with celebrities they only wanna post what people might find interesting. Of course they are going to choose to post about that one horse that got put down over the tons of horses that got pampered. Now why would a horse being pampered be interesting to the public? Also they like to get this type of reaction out of people. Although some racers really do have bad situations most of them really are kind and pamper their horses daily.
And I wouldn't quite call western and english the best types of NON cruel so to speak disciplines. Honestly I think forcing a horse to hold its head a certain way to look good is wrong and more stressfull than making a horse run.
My horse loves to run so I don't see why that would be so stressfull and hard compared to learning a certain motion of the legs or jumping formation.
Although I have no problems with any of the disciplines because honestly in every discipline there is someone that does wrong its not just one specific discipline that does wrong. Well that's just my 2 cents.
rollkur is nasty and is a subject of much controversy. But, when I horse is supple and on the bit so that their head is down, it is actually much better for the horse as he is carrying the riders weight in a way that is more comfortable and less damaging. From what I know, and I ride english, basically all dressage movements are enhancements of natural moving. As mentioned earlier, a horse can be seen frolicking in the paddock performing many of the movements that are perfected through dressage.
And yes, most horses love to run and that in itself is not damaging. Its the age and extent to which this happens that is the issue. I have worked for a few trainers in the past and have seen it with my own eyes. The injuries that the vet has said himself have resulted from being too young etc its a simple fact that can't be argued by those who believe that it is not the case. I do agree that there are probably some out there who pamper their horses etc but why?? So they will win. That's what it all comes down to...the money. But the majority of owners/trainers etc arent like that so millions of horses suffer while the small majority have reasonably adequate lives.
My example of starting racing at 4 (not 5 as stated) is not all bad. I didnt say to start breaking them then. Breaking could begin earlier and the horse conditioned for racing starting at a later age. Im sure there is nothing wrong with that.
Anyway, this is a dead issue to me as there is always going to be advocates and...what ever the opposite of them are
I just wish more people out there would think about what they are really doing to their horses. Let a horse be a horse and then do what you want. A horse is a horse is a horse and those not allowed to be a horse are the ones we so often see posts about who are bad mannered, prone to injury, recovering from injury or other industry related issues.