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post #21 of 31 Old 08-01-2013, 08:28 PM
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I love warmbloods- gorgeous and (from what I have mostly seen) generally well tempered horses. I tried out a few warmblood/arab crosses (I'm not big into arabs, just what was for sale at the time I was looking!) and as far as their abilities go I loved them all. I passed on one in favor of another, that one didn't pass the vet check, and the third turned out to be super spooky and insane. Too bad because she was a fabulous mare otherwise.

I still look back sometimes and feel a little bit of sadness about not being able to buy the gelding that we wanted because of the vet check, but my trainer made a good point to me one day. He was the kind of horse that really knew what to do. Anyone who reasonably knew dressage could jump on him and look pretty. That may have changed as we got into higher level stuff, but I wouldn't have learned nearly as much as I have the Quarter Horse that we ended up buying. He also knows what he is doing, he is very willing, and always tries to figure out what I want. However, he won't just GIVE it to you. You have to set both him and yourself up correctly and ask correctly or you won't necessarily get the correct response. I've fine-tuned my aids SO much more than I think I ever would with the other gelding because of this.
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post #22 of 31 Old 08-01-2013, 09:21 PM
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Horses are not considered "warmbloods" just due to size. I have seen several full warmbloods that are under 16 hands. I found an admittedly partial list of warmbloods and was surprised to see that it includes Appaloosas and Quarter Horses :).

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I have worked with quite a few Warmbloods (Oldenburg, Hannovarian, Holsteiner) and a few TB X Warmbloods.

They have all been really sweet horses. All completely different in temperament but lovely horses. Some are cheeky, some are big softies, some are a bit full of themselves (but secretly just sooks).

The stallions have been the most well behaved out of the lot of them. Please don't let the habits some horses have been allowed to develop due to humans put you off Warmbloods. They are generally speaking really nice horses. :)

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post #24 of 31 Old 08-01-2013, 11:01 PM
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Originally Posted by tlkng1 View Post
Horses are not considered "warmbloods" just due to size. I have seen several full warmbloods that are under 16 hands. I found an admittedly partial list of warmbloods and was surprised to see that it includes Appaloosas and Quarter Horses :).

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post #25 of 31 Old 08-02-2013, 01:04 AM
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I ride two warmbloods very regularly. The one is a gelding with a super big personality. He can be very sluggish unless cued and ridden correctly. He can occasionally be explosive when he gets full of himself. Nothing malicious, but definitely playful, excited bucking/hopping. His half sister is totally the opposite. She likes to work and has plenty of go. She never bats a lash at anything. In the two years I've been riding her, she has yet to spook. Every horse has a different personality regardless of breed. I used to own a super hot TB, but have ridden several laid back TBs. Don't let someone else's inability to train a horse properly turn you off of a breed. :)
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post #26 of 31 Old 08-02-2013, 10:52 PM
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I have a love/hate relationship with Warmbloods. Thanks to that year spent working for my trainer LOL. As someone who owns an Arabian - most of her WBs took a second to the "unpredictable, spookiness" award. The part that always freaked me? The massive size that came with the unpredictable, spookiness. When my Arab bucks, leaps, spins (& even my QH, she was a nutjob) it's like giggling at a small pony compared to these guys. They're powerhouses. Even if they weren't at the training point where they had the 'roid type muscles, just the sheer mass of them tweaking was like O.O

She had warmbloods from all different walks too. Canadians, Hanoverians, Trakes, RPSI, etc. I can tell you each horse was different from the next no matter what their breed. Her mare can be a strong willed powerhouse. Yet I rode this mare & never experienced problems. She handled fine on the ground too. Was never prone to spookiness or silliness. This went true with all her horses. Except one mare who was mean as sin... but that was just her 'tude. The little stud colt she tossed was an absolute lover. I think the thing with WBs that has to be understood is they NEED a job. Yes, her Prix St. George Lvl mare was the type she could ride minimally throughout the year. As was a couple others in the barn. Most though? Needed the mental stimulation of being ridden to get them from getting bored or going crazy in their own heads. Most were bred to hopefully make it to the higher levels & therefore you expect a little spirit. They weren't hard to handle though (some were pushy thanks to lack of ground manners) & most weren't horrors to ride undersaddle.

And I love my RPSI mare Cally. I missed her younger years where she could be a bit of a spitfire lol, but has really turned out to be an awesome horse for me. She's got a stand-offish attitude which most people don't like. She tolerated her last owner. Me? She actually puts a pleasant expression on her face, doesn't look annoyed I'm working with her, and always seems much calmer for me. Yes she can be pushy, attempt to pull my arms out of their sockets, flighty, and goofy. Yet so can my Arabian (my QH as well). Undersaddle she's a semi-dream. I mean she's good LOL, but does like to pull. Which she's huge so she CAN pull me. Yet we've started working better together, she listens to my body, & yes - if I pitch forward she stops for me. Does she spook? Yes. She's just a naturally spooky horse. Is she unpredictable? Nah I wouldn't say so. She doesn't come out and just randomly go ahhhh rela- BUCK - ahhh relax. Yet all the cons in the world couldn't change things for me with this mare I truly adore owning her.

There's my novel LOL. To me WBs aren't any different than every other horse. Some definitely have their weirdness & their bucks that come from nowhere. Yet so does my silly ass Arabian. I guess owning an Arabian prepared me for a WB...? Lol. I just wish my girl wasn't so massive >.<
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post #27 of 31 Old 08-03-2013, 03:08 AM
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I've ridden at a warmblood barn for 9 years (7 of those years riding warmbloods), and like any other breed there are good seeds and bad seeds. The first horse I started was a swedish warmblood x TB, and is the laziest, most chill, dull expressioned horse I've ever met. Not saying she's irritable or has an annoyed expression, but boy if she doesn't have to work, she clocks out. Otherwise a sweet horse. Her half sister on the other hand is hot as a pistol and is sensitive and can be difficult.

I think warmbloods tend to get a bad rap because in general they aren't simple, like say your average QH (I know, a generalization). On top of that, they have big, often extravagant and not always easy to ride gaits. They also tend to be bigger than your average light horse, and can be somewhat intimidating because of this. Big moving, large, and not always straight forward is a mot an easy combination for anyone, but even more so if you don't have a very solid base yourself, and can become dangerous much faster.
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post #28 of 31 Old 08-03-2013, 08:22 AM
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My experience is limited. Out of the hundreds of horses I've rode over the years, only a handful of warmbloods. I do own one now though, poor girl sticks out like a sore thumb in a pasture full of quarter horses lol.

She's a 16.3 Hanoverian. She's been dubbed the gentle giant. Sweet as can be personality, she's a favorite for most of my lesson students. Under saddle she's a big but smooth mover, put her nose to the grindstone & go to work kind of horse. Pretty quiet & mellow but is a bit more 'hot' when there's a jump course in front of her, she loves it, she's not out of control hot but is a much more forward and I think with a timid rider she might take advantage. She's the one I put kids on at first because she's far less sensitive & responsive with less buttons than my cutting bred/reining trained QHs. She's far more tolerant of mistakes and tolerates less than quiet legs & hands of a beginner well. The only thing I really can complain about with her is that she is a poor excuse for a trail horse, she's come miles since I've had her but good grief, our first foray into the woods we spent more time doing the 'snort & scoot' sideways than forward. She has since learned that squirrels, crunchy leaves, sticks, the wind rustling in the trees and deer are not going to eat her. At least not most days.

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post #29 of 31 Old 08-03-2013, 11:11 PM
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I completely get what you mean, and that's coming from someone who has owned two of them. My first girl, Wyndemere, was of the variety you have come across. She was sassy and had the most gorgeous movement ever. And then you have Dulcinea, who was the sweetest, most even tempered warmblood I've ever worked with, and that was when she was a baby and just learning how to be ridden. I fully believe this has to do with who owned them previously. Wyndemere was backyard bred (albeit very WELL backyard bred) and raised by a woman who did not know what the heck she was doing. But she was rich so she decided that with her spare time she wanted to breed pretty lawn ornaments with champion pedigrees. Wyndemere had never been expected to behave, so she didn't. Until she met me. Unfortunately she also had a medical issue that caused her a lot of pain, which definitely contributed to her sour moods with others. Dulcinea was a whole other story. She was bred like a real horse, is the hills of South Dakota. She was treated like a horse, well taken care of, and I would swear by these breeders (Solomon Farms in Okaton, SD if you're in the market). And it wasn't just her. While we were out there a yearling that hadn't been handled since he was born got caught in the neighbors cow fencing so I went out with one of the hands to fetch him. He had never had a halter put on him or been led or been put into a trailer, but he did everything right away with absolutely no issues. I firmly believe that is a horse is treated like a horse, and you don't take any crap from them they'll (SURPRISE!) be well-behaved HORSES. I've been in the warmblood, dressage horse world for a while and most of them are so spoiled and coddled that they can get away with being pushy. Even Wyndemere, who was so intimidating you couldn't pay most of the barn staff to go near her, was a perfect angel with me because I never expected anything less. Warmbloods are just like any other horse, if they've had someone teach them manners they'll be as docile as a 25 year old school horse.

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I don't have much experience with warmbloods in general but a friend of mine has an ex show Hanoverian, her nick name at her barn is evil E lol. Its not towards people though, more horse directed. However she has been off for a number of years (I'm guessing about 8+ ) and has had no consistent handling since. In the past when I have worked with her she has been pushy and disrespectful but its not so much that she is a mean horse but the fact that she has not been worked with like she should. Once you remind her how she is supposed to act she falls back in line. I have also ridden her and I must say for being off for so long she still takes care of her rider. So I guess its all about the training, handling and work she's had past and present...
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