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    05-28-2013, 02:07 AM
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Yearling
2 for! bay/brown? and a dark liver chestnut?

Ok First off, I just wanted to see if we are going to say light brown or bay for my gelding. Chillaa helped me last year and we are thinking light brown. Wanted to see is I can get anymore hits to agree. I'm not too sure. The other is my friends horse, but I'm posting that one after so I don't get the pics mixed in! I ALSO have a great picture of my bay/browns countershading, in case anyone wants to use it! TO show how close a countershade can actually be to a dorsal! Anyway! Since more is know about browns now, I thought I'd share again!

This is Buck! Dam was a chestnut. Sir a black and white tobiano.
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    05-28-2013, 02:11 AM
  #2
Yearling
This is Aston! His papers say liver chestnut. And I know how you all say they arent always right. He looks like he could be a fading black or something.... IDK. He seems to have a red tint, though. Let me know what you think of him. He looks black in the winter and just a slight red tint. In these pics the tint is darker. So I'll let you stew on these. Let me know on him! :)
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    05-28-2013, 08:45 AM
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The first horse is probably a light brown. You should test him I'm curious!!!!!! I know of someone who has been collecting brown horses in the interest of research and if he is brown he would be a neat example!

The second horse looks liver but I'm not sure you have a pic with a clearer shot of his legs? I want to see if the hair gets lighter toward the hoof. He kinda looks brown.
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    05-28-2013, 09:11 AM
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Showing
I agree that the first likely is a light brown, with the very obvious lightening of the soft areas.

As for the second, I'm leaning more towards a fading black...perhaps smokey black? I don't believe he's a chestnut though, his legs shade a bit darker the lower you go. Chestnuts get lighter.
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    05-28-2013, 09:30 AM
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Green Broke
What color are Ashton's parents?
     
    05-28-2013, 12:55 PM
  #6
Yearling
I think Buck is a brown too! He does have softer points in the winter especially! He has them year round but it's more obvious in winter. I have only seen ONE brown that light and Chillaa showed me... SO anyway I'm happy witht he answers, so let's figure out Aston. LOL Here's his info and a few more pics! On his breeder's page. He is not for sale btw, he has already been paid for and is now owned by my pal Lisa.

Supreme Martini K & M Quarter Horses here is his page on the breeder's sold page.

The dam passed away but so she is at the bottom of the broodmare page. She was a palomino. Sir is black. Here's the daddy Supreme Martini K & M Quarter Horses
     
    05-28-2013, 01:14 PM
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Yearling
This is Bucks half sister... I'm only adding her bc I just I just had my original understanding on her color dismissed. Apparently tovero is an outdated term. So I'm saying tobiano, sabino, with rabicano? And she's Buck half sister. I'm wondering if she is a brown paint and not a bay?
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    05-28-2013, 01:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Peppy Barrel Racing    
The first horse is probably a light brown. You should test him I'm curious!!!!!! I know of someone who has been collecting brown horses in the interest of research and if he is brown he would be a neat example!

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Also, if you can find the person before me, I'd like to help! :) Link me to them if it isnt too much trouble.
     
    05-28-2013, 01:23 PM
  #9
Green Broke
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Originally Posted by Wheatermay    
I think Buck is a brown too! He does have softer points in the winter especially! He has them year round but it's more obvious in winter. I have only seen ONE brown that light and Chillaa showed me... SO anyway I'm happy witht he answers, so let's figure out Aston. LOL Here's his info and a few more pics! On his breeder's page. He is not for sale btw, he has already been paid for and is now owned by my pal Lisa.

Supreme Martini K & M Quarter Horses here is his page on the breeder's sold page.

The dam passed away but so she is at the bottom of the broodmare page. She was a palomino. Sir is black. Here's the daddy Supreme Martini K & M Quarter Horses
So dam is pali and sire is black...

Smokey black is def a possibility..... I think.
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    05-28-2013, 01:51 PM
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Aston is definitely black based. Whether he got a cream gene from momma is anyone's guess and the only way to know for certain is to have him tested. But, he's definitely not red based and I don't believe he's carrying Agouti (brown/bay), so that leaves only the options of black or smoky black.
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