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    03-10-2013, 05:39 PM
  #1
Yearling
Any ideas on possible foal color?

My mare is due to foal any time, and the anticipation of what she's hiding in there is killing me! I don't know history on either her or the studs parents as far as coloration goes. My mare is a buckskin tobiano, and the stud is a spotted black. Well, he's not even really black, it's more of a deep charcoal color. He has fathered palominos, spotted, a sorrel (mare was sorel spotted) and just recently a foal that looks either champagne or a smoky cream maybe. Not sure because the mare is a devil and I can't get close to see in the stall.

Mare

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Stud

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    03-10-2013, 05:47 PM
  #2
Yearling
Also, would the stud be considered tobiano?
     
    03-10-2013, 05:52 PM
  #3
Foal
You can use this to get an idea of what color the foal may be Color Calculator

Mama is very pretty!! Please post pictures when baby arrives!!
     
    03-10-2013, 05:58 PM
  #4
Foal
I'm curious, was the mother of the palomino a palomino or cremello herself? Because if not, I'm going to say he's smokey black. If so, depending on her genes you could get (based on my research because cream fascinates me. The color experts here probably know a lot more than me):
Definite possibilities just based on their appearances (Provided he's smokey black):
Bay
Buckskin
Perlino
If she's a carrier for sorrel:
Sorrel
Palomino
Cremello
If she's a carrier for black:
Black
Smokey black
Smokey cream
^My guesses but like I said before, I've only dabbled in color research and I have absolutely no idea when it comes to spots
     
    03-10-2013, 07:55 PM
  #5
Trained
The mare has to carry at least one black allele Kati. She's a buckskin.

What color was the palomino foal's dam?

Do you have any better pics of the sire?
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    03-10-2013, 08:40 PM
  #6
Yearling
The mother of the palomino was not a cremello or palomino. I can't remember which mare had that one, it was definitely a spotted mare because that's all he has. So she was either liver, sorrel, or black. All spotted. I'm going to post a pic of a foal of his that was just born also.

But here's another pic of the stallion. Sorry It's not that good, he wouldn't stand still and the lighting was crappy.

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    03-10-2013, 08:42 PM
  #7
Yearling
Here's the foal of his that was just born. The mother is a spotted liver. I don't even know what you would call this color! But it's really pretty and different

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    03-10-2013, 08:46 PM
  #8
Yearling
The black that's on the stallion is not a regular black. It's lighter like a charcoal or something. And he's kept stalled so I know for a fact he isn't sun bleached. He is actually more white than anything else. Would he still be considered tobiano then?
     
    03-10-2013, 08:51 PM
  #9
Trained
Yes he is still tobiano.

What I am trying to see on him is a head shot from the side. The last pic of him in the first post makes me think that he might be brown and not black, but that could be a trick of lighting.

If that foal is out of a red mare then it can't be a smokey cream as that is a double dilute. Red based diluted once is palomino and twice is cremello.
     
    03-10-2013, 08:59 PM
  #10
Yearling
He definitely isn't brown. It's like a light black, dark charcoal color. I'll try to get a few better pics of him tomorrow.

Are you talking about the foal who's picture I posted? So what color is it? The mare is a spotted liver.

OMG how do you know all this!
     

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