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Any ideas on possible foal color?

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#1 ·
My mare is due to foal any time, and the anticipation of what she's hiding in there is killing me! I don't know history on either her or the studs parents as far as coloration goes. My mare is a buckskin tobiano, and the stud is a spotted black. Well, he's not even really black, it's more of a deep charcoal color. He has fathered palominos, spotted, a sorrel (mare was sorel spotted) and just recently a foal that looks either champagne or a smoky cream maybe. Not sure because the mare is a devil and I can't get close to see in the stall.

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#105 ·
Ok, I got some more pics! Although they aren't perfect, I think they will help maybe. I wish the lighting was better or I could take them out of the stalls in the daylight...but they aren't my horses :-p

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^THIS foal is Champagne..



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The stud in question is obviously diluted, he is not jet black.. Look at his eyes, they aint brown, or blue, they're amberish colored.. His coat is a charcoal color, not jet black.. just look again. His mane is darker than his body..
 
#67 ·
If he was bred to a non cream horse and the foal was palomino or buckskins then yeah he would be smokey black. But you can't tell by looking cream cannot affect black pigment unless the horse has two copies of cream.
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#68 ·
What a neat coloured baby! It would be interesting to see what it would test as. Now, does anyone else not think the mare is a liver chestnut? It's difficult to tell, but I can almost swear I see black on her legs above the socks and black in her main and tail, but with the lighting it's a little hard to tell. Brown maybe? Not that I know if it would make a difference or not, but it's just something I noticed.

Also, you should have a really nice looking baby, happy foaling!
 
#72 ·
Neither parent look bay or brown IMO. That leaves them either as black or red. If the baby is a double dilute, then the parents would have to be either smoky black or palomino, and neither of them look palomino. So narrowing it down to them being smoky black, they cannot produce a perlino foal. Ergo, baby, if a double dilute, must be either cremello or smoky cream, and given the dark colour, cremello is probably not the case.
 
#74 ·
If the foal is a double dilute, then both parents have to have the cream gene to pass on, as a double dilute has two copies of the gene. So yes, if the foal is a smoky cream, then the sire and dam are both smoky black.
 
#75 ·
Ok, thanks. So, when I did the color calculator it gave a percentage probability of my buckskin tobiano mare and this same stallion producing a perlino. She obviously carries cr because she's a buckskin, and if he is smoky black then there's that. Does that sound correct?
 
#86 ·
that studs obviously throwin champagne foals-- the mare is a buckskin (one cream gene) im guessing the foal will be amber cream.
 
#87 · (Edited)
I don't think the colt is champagne but is black with two cream genes. Also one parent would have to carry champagne it doesn't appear that either parent is champagne.
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