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    01-17-2012, 02:13 PM
Originally Posted by SunnyDraco    
Can we start by testing this theory with this arabian stallion I have found on horseclicks??

1 of 5 in the world! Blue eyed black splash sabino purebred Arab - Moonlight Money Maker

Any questions if he fits the splash pattern description? LOL
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I've got to shake my head a bit at this farm..
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    01-17-2012, 02:23 PM
Yes he does! And is under fed too, I think. They think he is worth gold because of his color. So, they get their business from anyone breeding for "color" and not conformation and temperament :/
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    01-17-2012, 02:27 PM
Originally Posted by SunnyDraco    
Yes he does! And is under fed too, I think. They think he is worth gold because of his color. So, they get their business from anyone breeding for "color" and not conformation and temperament :/
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And I don't understand breeding for 20+ foals when you post pictures of your yearlings and two year olds who are underweight and cleary wormy and in need of trims.
I can seee these horses in trouble one year. It's a shame, because she does have a few that have good conformation.
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    01-17-2012, 02:27 PM
I looked at their website and there's not a horse there that couldn't use an extra 100 pounds, none look sleek and well fed. And confo? Isn't that what Catholic kids do when they're about 6? Is the impression I got from looking at their horses. Not my kind.

And don't get me wrong, I LOVE extra chrome on a horse and have often said the only major fault my stallion has, is his lack of a belly spot. But color before anything else.....not for me.
    01-17-2012, 02:43 PM
Color should be icing on the cake, not out weighing the cake itself. :)

On the other hand, I do wonder how the new splash test would turn out for these horses bred solely for splash pintos.

More unfortunately, is that I have seen them advertising their stallion for more than two years now and he always looks so pitifully cared for :(
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    01-17-2012, 03:43 PM
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Well, I went to this site ans saw no underweight, unhealthy horses

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In fact, one looks like it needs a diet. The newborn photos show normal newborn weight. I do not know what the agenda is in slamming this breeder, but I see none of what is being stated here. So, is the issue simply that they are breeding for color? Well, to each their own, IMO.

BTW, since the photos on that site are copyrighted, I am looking into whether they should even be here.
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    01-17-2012, 03:51 PM
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You went to this site right here ^^^ and saw no horses with hip bones that look like doorknobs? You saw no underweight horses at all? You think the horses on that site are OK? Amazing.

I can go to that site, click on several pictures and I see thin necks, boney hips and ribs.....not all, but enough to make me not want to do business with this breeder. Has nothing to do with color. If you're ok with the condition of these horses, then I have an issue with your care of your horses also.

And, there are links to their publicly posted ads and to their publicly posted website. They put up the copyrighted pics, no one here copied them or in anyway infringed on the copyright status of those pics.
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    01-17-2012, 03:54 PM
I don't know why it would matter if their photos are copyrighted when I only linked to their ad on horseclicks (which you can "share" on facebook through horseclicks), not "taking" their pictures without permission. They get all the recognition that the pictures are their's and not someone else's. It would be the same as linking to any person's ad. As for the underweight, you can see the stud's ribs in his pictures on their stud ad. And his neck seems extremely thin, especially given the size or his head. Their focus is entirely for color, with a price tag to go with it. They really aren't doing any favors for the breed, color is nothing without conformation.
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    01-17-2012, 05:12 PM
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It looks more like one Arabian breeder slamming another, IMO.

Do you think these horses are starved?

I can see ribs! And hips. However, these are horses jogging in a vet inspection at two of the biggest events in the world. These are incredibly fit horses at the top of their game, and very well cared for.
    01-17-2012, 06:10 PM
I don't think anyone (even me) said they were starved. Under weight, yes. And for a stallion that is used for nothing more than breeding, he needs little more flesh. He isn't a performance horse, top level competitor, or do anything more than sit in a paddock. But for what he is, they are expecting quite a bit in stud fees. So, we just wouldn't do business with someone that likes their horses thin. No one is posting that no one should ever consider breeding to their stallion or buy one of their other horses. It is "to each their own". What is important to one person might not be so important to another. I had originally come across him in the first place when I was doing searches for the perfect breeding for my mom to try for her childhood dream horse. Color was a big factor, but also their conformation and disposition. This particular stallion (though he might be able to produce the color my mom wanted) was not even a consideration. There are plenty out there who wouldn't hesitate to breed to him, and that is their choice. Their mare, their money, not my business.
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